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On top of this I really doubt the claim about working in bad weather. Some weather will work, sure, maybe at reduced speeds. But if there is a proper cloud in t
by NohatCoder 3y ago
On top of this I really doubt the claim about working in bad weather. Some weather will work, sure, maybe at reduced speeds. But if there is a proper cloud in the way, the near-visible 1550 nm light will be scattered completely.
- nvahalik 3y agoNot to mention stuff like Solar flares.
- dylan604 3y agowhat is a proper cloud? it does not seem to be a term frequently used when discussing clouds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud
- IshKebab 3y agoIs this parody?
- dylan604 3y agoNot any more than saying a "proper cloud" will disrupt satellite transmissions is meant to be serious. Is it a cirrus cloud? Is it a cumulus? A cumulonimbus? Which cloud is going to do this blocking?
- staunton 3y agoThis really isn't that complicated. You can't do a link through pretty much any cloud where you would say "it's cloudy". If you're not sure, the link still works but a lot worse...
- IshKebab 3y agoA proper cloud. Everybody understood what he meant, including you. Why the need for such extreme pedantry? Oh right. It's HN, home of uber-pedants.
- dylan604 3y agoNo. I still don’t know what is meant by a proper cloud. I don’t have a starlink, but I’ve had plenty of other satellite systems in the past. None of these have had issues with clouds. Severe storms with heavy rain and lightning would affect it at times. With the older large dishes, heavy winds could cause it to move enough to degrade image. Clouds by themselves? No, not an issue. So, yet again I have to ask because all of the useless answers received to this point have not been an actual answer to what a proper cloud is that could interfere with a signal
- IshKebab 3y agoNot sure if you're being deliberately dense but he means a thick cloud. A very cloudy day where the clouds are very dense and voluminous. If sounds like you don't agree with him, but don't pretend you don't understand him. Please.
- dylan604 3y agoYou're going to need to show me charts with strength of signal being diminished by "proper" clouds before I'll even remotely come to thinking this isn't just FUD. So, no, I don't understand him, and yes, if this is the premise I do not agree with it.
- NohatCoder 3y agoIt is pretty simple, you can't see through a cloud because the visible light gets scattered. This system works with 1550 nm light, which behaves pretty much the same in the context. Normal ground to satellite communication use wavelengths of 7 mm and up, as those have reasonable cloud penetration.
- giantrobot 3y agoI believe the idea is that the ground link is still radio but the interconnect between the satellites is a laser. While radio can be affected by weather, the "works in bad weather" is a long solved issue.
- NohatCoder 3y agoThat could work, but unless you can somehow deliver similar speeds with radio the network would bottleneck on the ground to satellite links.