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"They can break compatibility every time, for all I care." that's why apple won't find much traction in the business world. backwards compatibility is very im

by veyron 15y ago

"They can break compatibility every time, for all I care." that's why apple won't find much traction in the business world. backwards compatibility is very important. You want to write software once, not have to continually update to migrate it to the latest OS

tomjen3 15y ago
Does it matter? They make plenty of money anyway and the company stock is doing better than those who attempt to go for the enterprise market. Sometimes it seems that the business world assumes that everything revolves around it.
- recoiledsnake 15y ago
  Yes it's quite funny. Just like people debate Apache vs. Nginx back and forth here while Microsoft is laughing all the way to the bank taking almost all the profits from the web server market with IIS.
  - hkarthik 15y ago
    Terrible comparison, IMO. Microsoft doesn't sell IIS standalone, it comes bundled with their server licenses. The Windows Server, Exchange Server, SQL Server licenses are what make the money. IIS is just included in all of them. If they tried to charge money for IIS and shipped it for any other OS, it would fail pretty quick as it's not very sys admin friendly and most of it's performance is heavily dependent on Windows threading model.
  - socially-distnt 15y ago
    "profits from the web server market"... WHAT profits? Apache & Nginx are both... wait for it... FREE! So is the underlying OS. And who's number 1 and 2 in the market? Oh yeah, Apache and Nginx...
- acqq 15y ago
  And if we return our attention to VS 11, the main topic here, and MSFT who produces it, they already hold enterprise market, and now they want to ignore it because they expect to be better Apple than Apple? I suspect they are making themselves less relevant by such moves, actively stimulating enterprises to consider alternatives. How about making a successful consumer product instead of trying to make the established Windows to be everything for everybody including enterprises, making Windows more "consumery and breakable"? I am talking about "Professional" and "Server" products now, not about "home" ones. Maybe they should rebrand VS 11 to "VS 11 Home."
funkah 15y ago
> that's why apple won't find much traction in the business world. backwards compatibility is very important. By all appearances they don't care to be in that market, and for that very reason. So, the system works.

by veyron 15y ago

tomjen3 15y ago

Does it matter? They make plenty of money anyway and the company stock is doing better than those who attempt to go for the enterprise market. Sometimes it seems that the business world assumes that everything revolves around it.

recoiledsnake 15y ago
Yes it's quite funny. Just like people debate Apache vs. Nginx back and forth here while Microsoft is laughing all the way to the bank taking almost all the profits from the web server market with IIS.
- hkarthik 15y ago
  Terrible comparison, IMO. Microsoft doesn't sell IIS standalone, it comes bundled with their server licenses. The Windows Server, Exchange Server, SQL Server licenses are what make the money. IIS is just included in all of them. If they tried to charge money for IIS and shipped it for any other OS, it would fail pretty quick as it's not very sys admin friendly and most of it's performance is heavily dependent on Windows threading model.
- socially-distnt 15y ago
  "profits from the web server market"... WHAT profits? Apache & Nginx are both... wait for it... FREE! So is the underlying OS. And who's number 1 and 2 in the market? Oh yeah, Apache and Nginx...
acqq 15y ago
And if we return our attention to VS 11, the main topic here, and MSFT who produces it, they already hold enterprise market, and now they want to ignore it because they expect to be better Apple than Apple? I suspect they are making themselves less relevant by such moves, actively stimulating enterprises to consider alternatives. How about making a successful consumer product instead of trying to make the established Windows to be everything for everybody including enterprises, making Windows more "consumery and breakable"? I am talking about "Professional" and "Server" products now, not about "home" ones. Maybe they should rebrand VS 11 to "VS 11 Home."

funkah 15y ago

> that's why apple won't find much traction in the business world. backwards compatibility is very important. By all appearances they don't care to be in that market, and for that very reason. So, the system works.