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Okay fine, let’s go willy nilly spread nutrition advice based on stretched conclusions from limited studies because diet advice totally doesn’t have a history o

by mint2 3y ago

Okay fine, let’s go willy nilly spread nutrition advice based on stretched conclusions from limited studies because diet advice totally doesn’t have a history of misinterpretation and trends later found to be wrong. Let’s upend diets on this latest fad of studies! No matter that both historical and modern trends raise questions about the conclusion, let’s upend people diets! Happy now? P.s. Also skeptical doesn’t mean that something isn’t possible. Just a word to the wise.

orangepurple 3y ago
I should have posted his follow up study which demonstrates the transfer of genetic material from milk and its effects into human cells. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/CCID.S69135 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/CCID.S69135
- mint2 3y ago
  An article that further highlights the point I made - they site some groups getting more acne when adapting a “wester diet” (not just milk), and fail to address all the easily found counter examples rested to dairy. But that paper is only 1/3 about milk, it also cites high glycemic index carbs and saturated fats as being causes. Health issues around low fiber high glycemic carbs is not a new or novel claim Going back to the ethnic groups it cites as seeing increased acne with adoption of “western” diets. It’s not a surprise or novel finding that a diet of ultra processed high glycemic low fiber and all the other issues with the convenience food diet causes health issues. It is interesting they cite a group known for lactose intolerance and blame dairy. They cite one disease as creating a natural experiment, and yet don’t mention lactose intolerance. And this new paper is just about acne, not the wide range of modern afflictions mentioned before. Dairy very well could have negative impacts, but it also could be the next aluminum or eggs. I’m not going to argue with eating less refined carbs and sugars and eating more vegetables. That’s well supported advice. Latching onto select dietary papers and then extrapolating to broad conclusions is a hallmark of what’s wrong with how the media and people understand nutrition science.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    This whole thread validates my statement. You under explained your argument. I was not attempting to setup a straw man and attack you with it. While inciteful it was not an underhanded attack.

by mint2 3y ago

orangepurple 3y ago

I should have posted his follow up study which demonstrates the transfer of genetic material from milk and its effects into human cells. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/CCID.S69135 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/CCID.S69135

mint2 3y ago
An article that further highlights the point I made - they site some groups getting more acne when adapting a “wester diet” (not just milk), and fail to address all the easily found counter examples rested to dairy. But that paper is only 1/3 about milk, it also cites high glycemic index carbs and saturated fats as being causes. Health issues around low fiber high glycemic carbs is not a new or novel claim Going back to the ethnic groups it cites as seeing increased acne with adoption of “western” diets. It’s not a surprise or novel finding that a diet of ultra processed high glycemic low fiber and all the other issues with the convenience food diet causes health issues. It is interesting they cite a group known for lactose intolerance and blame dairy. They cite one disease as creating a natural experiment, and yet don’t mention lactose intolerance. And this new paper is just about acne, not the wide range of modern afflictions mentioned before. Dairy very well could have negative impacts, but it also could be the next aluminum or eggs. I’m not going to argue with eating less refined carbs and sugars and eating more vegetables. That’s well supported advice. Latching onto select dietary papers and then extrapolating to broad conclusions is a hallmark of what’s wrong with how the media and people understand nutrition science.
- sitkack 3y ago
  This whole thread validates my statement. You under explained your argument. I was not attempting to setup a straw man and attack you with it. While inciteful it was not an underhanded attack.