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Authoritarian states almost never prosper, even if they have all the tools to do so. Everything built on lies and games of power will crumble under its own vill
by atleastoptimal 3y ago
Authoritarian states almost never prosper, even if they have all the tools to do so. Everything built on lies and games of power will crumble under its own villainy.
- mnd999 3y agoChina seems to be doing okay. So much so that every western government seems to be becoming more authoritarian.
- atleastoptimal 3y agoChina improved since the 1949 revolution by becoming gradually less authoritarian in matters of economic security. Even so, their GDP per capita is still a fraction of their neighbors (Taiwan, South Korea, Japan)
- LexiMax 3y agoSingapore also uses authoritarian capitalism and out-GDP-per-capita's all of the above, including the US.
- adhvaryu 3y agoMaybe the size of a country is a bigger factor than all.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago> including the US. Just barely. Also you should be comparing it to a single city in the US.
- realusername 3y agoThat's the only developed dictatorship in the world though, nobody knows if it's possible to replicate that outside of a city state
- fumar 3y agoIs that cause and effect defensible? I haven’t heard any Americans civilians or politicians claim overtly or subtly that the US should be more like China.
- mnd999 3y ago> Is that cause and effect defensible? Probably not, it could be for other reasons but it’s certainly happening. > I haven’t heard any Americans civilians or politicians claim overtly or subtly that the US should be more like China. It depends what you mean by like China. Nobody’s advocating little red books but there’s plenty advocating for mass surveillance, control of speech, banning books or telling women what the can and can’t do with their bodies.
- lost_tourist 3y agoIt's the natural process of politicians, they always want more and more control
- hgsgm 3y agoOK for who? Not the 10s of millions murdered.
- nradov 3y agoChina "seems" to be doing okay, and they have succeeded in lifting hundreds of millions out of desperate poverty. But their GDP numbers are all lies because every level of the CCP hierarchy has been exaggerating on official reports for decades. There is no independent verification allowed. External estimates based on resource flows and satellite imagery present a much bleaker picture.
- hulitu 3y ago> Everything built on lies and games of power will crumble under its own villainy. US seems to be doing fine.
- atleastoptimal 3y agoUS is doing fine despite its political and cultural issues, not because of them. We'll see how that turns out in 30 years.
- lost_tourist 3y agoThat's what they said 30 years ago "in 20 years we'll see america crumble because of policies of $THE_OTHER_PARTY"
- wongarsu 3y agoOr more pragmatically: whatever your motivation to become leader, you can only keep doing that if you stay leader. That means keeping the support of those with the power to dispose you. In authoritarian regimes that often means vast amounts of resources flow to military leadership, police, oligarchs, and anybody else who can effect regime change, their corruption it's tolerated, and everybody else gets what's left. If anything. The genius of democracy is that regular citizens have the power to cause regime change, so leaders are well advised to care about their opinion too, in addition to all the other groups
- raincom 3y agoIn democracy, just create fights between groups on issues of no-substance, and have two political parties. You get a system, which appears to be democratic, but controlled by the elite (uber wealthy, CEO-class, elite schools, think tanks, elite class of politicians, elite intellectuals specialized in propaganda). Politicians/leaders/parties change every x years, based on the election schedule, but this is a better system for the elite.