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Twenty Five Thousand march on Moscow, Prigozhyn announced

65 points by lovelyviking 3y ago

lovelyviking 3y ago
Armored vehicles are brought into Russian city of Rostov. Media reports on implementation of "Fortress" plan in city due to armed rebellion of Wagner PMC. VIDEO&PHOTOS Source: https://censor.net/en/p3426649 https://censor.net/en/p3426649
lovelyviking 3y ago
Military Vehicles Seen in Moscow as Prigozhin Accused of Armed Mutiny | VOA News https://youtube.com/watch?v=pwg6v8nj-g4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=pwg6v8nj-g4
zgluck 3y ago
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- smoldesu 3y ago
  From the guidelines: > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. I agree that it's intellectually gratifying, but Hacker News is supposed to be more of a tech interest board more than an "internet funnel" like Reddit or Twitter.
  - zgluck 3y ago
    They didn't cover this on TV news 6 hours ago. They do now.
  - asveikau 3y ago
    I think tech news should not feel like it's somehow above normal human experiences, and there's benefit in observing mainstream news together. For example, the slashdot thread on 9/11 was well known.
  - logicchains 3y ago
    There was a lot of discussion here when the war between Russia and Ukraine began, so why not also discussion about an event (Russian military coup) that may well end the war?
  - Klaster_1 3y ago
    Habr - roughly the most prominent russian-speaking counterpart of HN - had a longstanding "no politics" policy too, which in hindsight only benefited the authoritarian regime by keeping more people "apolitical". When they came for the IT crowd, political threads became the hottest discussed topic there. Personally, that's the only reason for me to visit Habr anymore, to observe the effects the war and the mood among my colleagues and fellow citizens. Political threads on HN serve the same purpose. I believe banning politics outright from media is shortsighted, major events will - and already did - affect the industry, same as, for example, the climate change. Instead of banning, I believe steering the discussion towards these potential effects would prove more beneficial. Besides, not every HN visitor lives in US, the situation can serve as a viable lesson for those promoting absence from local politics: don't repeat the mistake citizens of RF did.
logicchains 3y ago
I wonder why there isn't more discussion of this on HN; a mutiny by Russia's largest mercenary company is a significant event that could have a big effect on the world, given Russia's ongoing war in Ukraine. It's also not a very politically sensitive topic.
- zgluck 3y ago
  It's because things are being systematically flagged. Like this comment within a few seconds. This started happening 6+ hours ago. There have been many (20+) posts about this. All of them silenced by means of aggressive flagging. I strongly feel that HN has failed here.
  - logicchains 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - zgluck 3y ago
      [flagged]
  - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
    No necessarily. You just need relatively small amount of accounts who are trying to suppress this information. I don't think that HN was ever built to counter full blown informational warfare.
- everyone 3y ago
  There has been one big thread already but it is flagged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36452290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36452290 Im genuinely curious why they are getting flagged. Like seriously are IRA members HN moderators or something?
  - callahad 3y ago
    I flagged this. Hacker News doesn't need to be an omnichannel; if other venues will cover this, and cover it well, then it's fine to leave it to them. The Guidelines say much the same: "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."
2-718-281-828 3y ago
damn ... seems rather half-baked. can't believe they are now actually marching all the way back. was sure he wouldn't take that risk without a strong support right in moscow.

65 points by lovelyviking 3y ago

Armored vehicles are brought into Russian city of Rostov. Media reports on implementation of "Fortress" plan in city due to armed rebellion of Wagner PMC. VIDEO&PHOTOS Source: https://censor.net/en/p3426649 https://censor.net/en/p3426649

lovelyviking 3y ago

Military Vehicles Seen in Moscow as Prigozhin Accused of Armed Mutiny | VOA News https://youtube.com/watch?v=pwg6v8nj-g4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=pwg6v8nj-g4

zgluck 3y ago

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smoldesu 3y ago
From the guidelines: > If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. I agree that it's intellectually gratifying, but Hacker News is supposed to be more of a tech interest board more than an "internet funnel" like Reddit or Twitter.
- zgluck 3y ago
  They didn't cover this on TV news 6 hours ago. They do now.
- asveikau 3y ago
  I think tech news should not feel like it's somehow above normal human experiences, and there's benefit in observing mainstream news together. For example, the slashdot thread on 9/11 was well known.
- logicchains 3y ago
  There was a lot of discussion here when the war between Russia and Ukraine began, so why not also discussion about an event (Russian military coup) that may well end the war?
- Klaster_1 3y ago
  Habr - roughly the most prominent russian-speaking counterpart of HN - had a longstanding "no politics" policy too, which in hindsight only benefited the authoritarian regime by keeping more people "apolitical". When they came for the IT crowd, political threads became the hottest discussed topic there. Personally, that's the only reason for me to visit Habr anymore, to observe the effects the war and the mood among my colleagues and fellow citizens. Political threads on HN serve the same purpose. I believe banning politics outright from media is shortsighted, major events will - and already did - affect the industry, same as, for example, the climate change. Instead of banning, I believe steering the discussion towards these potential effects would prove more beneficial. Besides, not every HN visitor lives in US, the situation can serve as a viable lesson for those promoting absence from local politics: don't repeat the mistake citizens of RF did.

logicchains 3y ago

I wonder why there isn't more discussion of this on HN; a mutiny by Russia's largest mercenary company is a significant event that could have a big effect on the world, given Russia's ongoing war in Ukraine. It's also not a very politically sensitive topic.

zgluck 3y ago
It's because things are being systematically flagged. Like this comment within a few seconds. This started happening 6+ hours ago. There have been many (20+) posts about this. All of them silenced by means of aggressive flagging. I strongly feel that HN has failed here.
- logicchains 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - zgluck 3y ago
    [flagged]
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  No necessarily. You just need relatively small amount of accounts who are trying to suppress this information. I don't think that HN was ever built to counter full blown informational warfare.
everyone 3y ago
There has been one big thread already but it is flagged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36452290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36452290 Im genuinely curious why they are getting flagged. Like seriously are IRA members HN moderators or something?
- callahad 3y ago
  I flagged this. Hacker News doesn't need to be an omnichannel; if other venues will cover this, and cover it well, then it's fine to leave it to them. The Guidelines say much the same: "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

2-718-281-828 3y ago

damn ... seems rather half-baked. can't believe they are now actually marching all the way back. was sure he wouldn't take that risk without a strong support right in moscow.