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> They do not ensure that operators adhere to proper operating procedures and decision-making processes – two areas that are much more important for mitigating
by arcticbull 3y ago
> They do not ensure that operators adhere to proper operating procedures and decision-making processes – two areas that are much more important for mitigating risks at sea.
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This sounds an awful lot like survivorship bias.
- derbOac 3y agoIt also sounded to me like dodging the question.
- arcticbull 3y agoGiving them the benefit of the doubt, they're saying the biggest problem with submersibles is operator error. Of course it is, when the classing system effectively eliminates the majority of mechanical failures. That doesn't mean the classing system is failing, on the contrary, it means its working.
- lamontcg 3y agoReminds me of some code that I've written which got passed off to other teams who ripped it out because all they saw was the complexity and they didn't recognize what issues it was preventing (Chesterton's Fence).
- quickthrower2 3y agoCode like that needs a 10 ft comment. I have been save by seeing those on otherwise “why the fuck is this needed” code. If they if ignore the comment, well that is hubris.
- lamontcg 3y agoI'm pretty good about doing that. I've gotten compliments before for a massive 10 line code comment above a-single-line-that-shall-not-be-deleted.
- mkonecny 3y agoAnd yet they allowed passengers to control the sub. Theres a video out there where one of the passengers hit the ground with a loud thud while at the controls
- dragonwriter 3y agoIt is exactly survivorship bias: its taking the population produced by a selection filter (to wit, classing/certification) and assuming that the traits of that population are representive of what would exist without the filter.
- jackmott42 3y agoYeah, mechanical failure was not a major problem with subs...until someone started gluing dissimilar materials together to make one!
- tverbeure 3y ago"We don't need to vaccinate against measles because hardly anyone gets measles."
- mr_00ff00 3y agoI have a friend who is a professor of history. He jokes that human history is basically us creating systems to solve problems, then time passes and we remove those systems causes “those types of problems never happen.” Rinse repeat
- caseyohara 3y agoThis seems related to Chesterton's Fence > Chesterton’s Fence is a principle that says change should not be made until the reasoning behind the current state of affairs is understood. It says the rash move, upon coming across a fence, would be to tear it down without understanding why it was put up.
- marcosdumay 3y agoTo be fair, as a general rule, removing the systems makes sense. You don't want to accumulate them forever even after they become useless. But in theory, people are smart, and shouldn't evolve their culture by blind trial and error.