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Again, we're talking about a factory that beats its workers[0], faces them down in riots[1], hasn't paid wages on multiple occasions[2], negotiates against mass
by smoldesu 3y ago
Again, we're talking about a factory that beats its workers[0], faces them down in riots[1], hasn't paid wages on multiple occasions[2], negotiates against mass-worker suicide pacts[3], forces employees into overtime to fatal extremes[4] and blackmails the families of their workers[5].
Maybe, just maybe, giving authoritarian autonomy to a factory complex full of human workers is not a good idea.
[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20101009065851/http://shanghaiist.com/2010/05/20/foxconn-security-guards-beating.php https://web.archive.org/web/20101009065851/http://shanghaiis...
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-26/foxconn-workers-labor-under-police-watch-after-riot-shuts-plant https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-26/foxconn-w...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/mar/29/apple-foxconn-audit-labour-violations https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/mar/29/apple-fox..., https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/24/business/foxconn-offer-protests-china-covid-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/24/business/foxconn-offer-protes...
[3] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9006988/Mass-suicide-protest-at-Apple-manufacturer-Foxconn-factory.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/900698...
[4] https://archive.is/gT0dZ https://archive.is/gT0dZ
[5] https://www.reuters.com/article/china-foxconn-trial/family-of-brain-damaged-worker-takes-foxconn-to-court-in-china-idUSL3E8LH2F820121030 https://www.reuters.com/article/china-foxconn-trial/family-o...
- Dylan16807 3y agoCool I didn't say anything about whether they are good or should have autonomy, I said the suicide rate wasn't high.
- smoldesu 3y agoOk. I'll defer your attention to the mass suicide threat and move on then.
- Dylan16807 3y agoEven if you go to the hypothetical extreme of pretending every single one those people committed suicide, it still doesn't give them a high suicide rate overall...