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At that rate, there should be an encyclopedia dedicated to all projects that can be described as greenwashing. I think it's a new strategy to "drown the fish",
by jokoon 3y ago
At that rate, there should be an encyclopedia dedicated to all projects that can be described as greenwashing.
I think it's a new strategy to "drown the fish", by flooding the media with "green" technologies just to pretend to say "we heard you, we are going to change the world with green new things" only to save more time until everybody realize each of those new projects are just not viable. The air travel sector seems to be rife with this.
Who could have guessed that snake oil could work in something as serious as the energy sector, I'm really surprised it's getting so low.
I'm going to be brutally honest, but you even hear people from first world countries playing the poverty card when you tell them they should stop driving alone in a 1 ton vehicle, and it seems sobriety and de-growth will have to convince those people that fossil fuels are a privilege, not a right.
I can bet that we are going to see people sabotaging cars, gas stations and refineries pretty soon if nothing is done. Greta Thunberg will be 25 soon and a whole generation will not tolerate more lies.
- unwind 3y agoOkay, but it would be more helpful if you provided some actual arguments against the technology.
- cyberax 3y agoIt's another "use energy/hydrogen to create a fuel" technology. This one creates a very inconvenient fuel: iron powder. It can't be efficiently piped, and it needs some very strange technology to make it burn in controlled conditions. And you cannot use it for gas turbines or piston-based engines. At this point, if you have hydrogen, you can just use it to produce methane that has none of these problems. Or maybe ammonia if we ever get catalysts working at mild conditions.
- concordDance 3y agoWhile it's very true that greenwashing is a thing, bans on fossil fuels are not the right approach. You need sin taxes that account for the cost of the externalities instead. A CO2 tax is sensible, "degrowth" is a horrific thing that will kill billions.
- nyc_data_geek1 3y agoDone correctly, degrowth need not lead to billions of deaths. We desperately need to restructure our economic systems and societies to account for the reality that infinite economic growth on a finite world is not possible, realistic or desirable. If we do so, we can minimize the bleeding. If we fail to, billions will die on hothouse Earth regardless.
- Slava_Propanei 3y ago[dead]
- elihu 3y ago1 ton vehicles would actually be an improvement on the status quo, at least in the U.S. where a "small" car is usually more like 3,000 to 4,000 pounds. Also, if self driving becomes wide-spread and successful, we're going to start seeing a lot of zero-occupant cars on the road, most likely bringing the average vehicle occupancy below 1.
- jokoon 3y ago> most likely bringing the average vehicle occupancy below 1. That would quite hilarious and horrific at the same time
- Animats 3y agoYes. See "blue hydrogen", "grey hydrogen" (from natural gas), "black hydrogen" (from coal), "turquoise hydrogen" (from methane)...[1] [1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/clean-energy-green-hydrogen/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/clean-energy-green-hy...
- Slava_Propanei 3y ago[dead]