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it's not just about refusing to return bigotry, there are other form of biases that one need to be aware. it used to be that if you asked for 100 CTO bios, you

it's not just about refusing to return bigotry, there are other form of biases that one need to be aware. it used to be that if you asked for 100 CTO bios, you'd get all males. Now if you ask that, gpt returns a nice list with about 50% distribution. But ask nurses, and 75%+ are female. are those reasonable, or realistic? maybe, I don't want to enter into the topic in too much detail and I specifically don't want to pass judgment either way. but one has to be aware that results will either a) match the world distribution of probabilities, which includes all the implicit biases that are still unresolved in our society, or b) match an ideal distribution of equalized probability, which will represent an ideal version of the society that is not always grounded in our gritty, biased world.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
Uneven distribution of people by sex in a specific job role does not mean there is bias. It's an expected result as we have inherent, biological, sexual dimorphism. Indeed, in many roles even distribution would suggest bias.
- mathgorges 3y ago
  I heartily disagree. I work with plenty of CIOs, and I’ve never noticed wider hips or larger breasts to either hinder or aid success in that context. Unless you’re implying that there are non-physical elements to human sexual dimorphism, but afaict that’s an unresolved hard problem vis a vis the nature vs nurture debate.
andsoitis 3y ago
> it used to be that if you asked for 100 CTO bios, you'd get all males. Now if you ask that, gpt returns a nice list with about 50% distribution. But ask nurses, and 75%+ are female. I just queried both cases, i.e. 10 CTO bios and 10 nurse bios, and in both cases got a 50/50 gender ratio. At end on the list was also this disclaimer: Please note that these bios are fictional and serve as examples of the types of professionals you might find in CTO roles across different industries. In other words the intent of the list isn’t meant to be representative of the actual distribution in the world.
- avereveard 3y ago
  yeah maybe it was not the best example, but here's the screenshot for mine, just so we're all on the same page in term of model, temp etc: https://i.imgur.com/ll8Q1dY.png https://i.imgur.com/ll8Q1dY.png too bad I cannot share from the playground idk why

pbhjpbhj 3y ago

Uneven distribution of people by sex in a specific job role does not mean there is bias. It's an expected result as we have inherent, biological, sexual dimorphism. Indeed, in many roles even distribution would suggest bias.

mathgorges 3y ago
I heartily disagree. I work with plenty of CIOs, and I’ve never noticed wider hips or larger breasts to either hinder or aid success in that context. Unless you’re implying that there are non-physical elements to human sexual dimorphism, but afaict that’s an unresolved hard problem vis a vis the nature vs nurture debate.

andsoitis 3y ago

> it used to be that if you asked for 100 CTO bios, you'd get all males. Now if you ask that, gpt returns a nice list with about 50% distribution. But ask nurses, and 75%+ are female. I just queried both cases, i.e. 10 CTO bios and 10 nurse bios, and in both cases got a 50/50 gender ratio. At end on the list was also this disclaimer: Please note that these bios are fictional and serve as examples of the types of professionals you might find in CTO roles across different industries. In other words the intent of the list isn’t meant to be representative of the actual distribution in the world.

avereveard 3y ago
yeah maybe it was not the best example, but here's the screenshot for mine, just so we're all on the same page in term of model, temp etc: https://i.imgur.com/ll8Q1dY.png https://i.imgur.com/ll8Q1dY.png too bad I cannot share from the playground idk why