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Not all heterosexual couples can conceive, but a large number can. 0 homosexual couples can conceive. I'd also say yes heterosexuals are sure to raise kids be

by axod 18y ago

Not all heterosexual couples can conceive, but a large number can. 0 homosexual couples can conceive. I'd also say yes heterosexuals are sure to raise kids better. What could be better than getting both a woman and a mans point of view on the world? :/ Wouldn't you worry if you sent your son to a school where all the teachers were women? I'd say he would be missing out on something.

swombat 18y ago
0 infertile couples can conceive. Should infertile couples not be allowed to marry? 0 post-menopausal women can conceive. Should post-menopausal women not be allowed to marry?
- kingkongrevenge 18y ago
  > Should infertile couples not be allowed to marry? It's not really a marriage, so maybe it should be called something else, just as with homosexual civil unions. But of course there's no way to determine infertility, so it's not practical. It's very practical for homosexuals, though.
  - scott_s 18y ago
    I think you're the one here who is redefining marriage.
  - sethg 18y ago
    If the purpose of marriage is to encourage procreation, then heterosexually couples who take advantage of the legal benefits of marriage (tax deductions, hospital visitation, Social Security survivor's benefits, etc., etc., etc.) without procreating are freeloaders. So let's amend the laws so that only a heterosexual couple that has produced a child can take advantage of those benefits. (Not adoption, and not artificial insemination by a third-party donor! That's cheating!) There's a very practical suggestion. If I lived in California I'd be tempted to put it on a referendum and see how many votes it loses by.
azanar 18y ago
"I'd also say yes heterosexuals are sure to raise kids better. What could be better than getting both a woman and a mans point of view on the world? :/" How about the points of view of multiple women and multiple men? You make the mistake here of assuming that there only are two fundamental points of view, delineated by gender, that people are exposed to. By that argument, it should be trivial to map gender to things like political party, religion, or any of a number of other perspectives? That we don't see this suggests your premise is wrong.
DaniFong 18y ago
What do you mean by raising kids better? Single parents and same sex couples can both raise kids extraordinarily well; better than many heterosexual couples. And if this is a statement about averages, it is already generally agreed that restricting individual rights based on the properties of a group are immoral and wrong.

by axod 18y ago

swombat 18y ago

0 infertile couples can conceive. Should infertile couples not be allowed to marry? 0 post-menopausal women can conceive. Should post-menopausal women not be allowed to marry?

kingkongrevenge 18y ago
> Should infertile couples not be allowed to marry? It's not really a marriage, so maybe it should be called something else, just as with homosexual civil unions. But of course there's no way to determine infertility, so it's not practical. It's very practical for homosexuals, though.
- scott_s 18y ago
  I think you're the one here who is redefining marriage.
- sethg 18y ago
  If the purpose of marriage is to encourage procreation, then heterosexually couples who take advantage of the legal benefits of marriage (tax deductions, hospital visitation, Social Security survivor's benefits, etc., etc., etc.) without procreating are freeloaders. So let's amend the laws so that only a heterosexual couple that has produced a child can take advantage of those benefits. (Not adoption, and not artificial insemination by a third-party donor! That's cheating!) There's a very practical suggestion. If I lived in California I'd be tempted to put it on a referendum and see how many votes it loses by.

azanar 18y ago

"I'd also say yes heterosexuals are sure to raise kids better. What could be better than getting both a woman and a mans point of view on the world? :/" How about the points of view of multiple women and multiple men? You make the mistake here of assuming that there only are two fundamental points of view, delineated by gender, that people are exposed to. By that argument, it should be trivial to map gender to things like political party, religion, or any of a number of other perspectives? That we don't see this suggests your premise is wrong.

DaniFong 18y ago

What do you mean by raising kids better? Single parents and same sex couples can both raise kids extraordinarily well; better than many heterosexual couples. And if this is a statement about averages, it is already generally agreed that restricting individual rights based on the properties of a group are immoral and wrong.