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i understand what you are basing your statement on (a cleaner version would be asphyxiation by breathing an inert gas) but you are very wrong. as a matter of fa

i understand what you are basing your statement on (a cleaner version would be asphyxiation by breathing an inert gas) but you are very wrong. as a matter of fact people with an impaired amygdala who can't experience fear will panic when forced to breathe co2. also your breathing will get very shallow and cause co2 to accumulate triggering those very receptors you argue will stay silent. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.12350 https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2013.12350

meepmorp 3y ago
What the does that have to do with what OP said? OP, correctly, pointed out that we don't detect the lack of O2, we detect a buildup of CO2 (because it causes respiratory acidosis). If the CO2 is removed, there's nothing to cause the panic response, the situation itself notwithstanding. It's still nea that it works with an impaired amygdala, though.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  first of all - the co2 isn't removed ...
  - WithinReason 3y ago
    It is, they had CO2 scrubbers
    - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
      but not endlessly. those scrubbers are saturated after a while. that's the whole point. otherwise suffocation wouldn't be a threat to begin with. why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?
      - WithinReason 3y ago
        The CO2 scrubbers were in masks which could be replaced and there was enough for 96 hours
        2-718-281-828 3y ago
        how is that even relevant to the question here? i'm out, have a good day
  - meepmorp 3y ago
    It's called a hypothetical.
uppiiii765 3y ago
But kids and people die regularly due to having a barbeque thing lit in a close space and the coals consume the oxygen and make CO2. Wouldn't that wake them up? I also assumed that too much CO2 fast is the key not the super slow version of what those people in the sub have experienced
- Wojtkie 3y ago
  You're confusing CO2 (carbon dioxide) with CO (carbon monoxide). CO doesn't cause the same physiological fear response that CO2 does.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  what you mean is CO - not CO2
slau 3y ago
You are arguing for the exact same thing as the person you’re replying to—while attempting to disagree with them. They said that provided you can keep CO2 levels down, lack of oxygen will cause drowsiness and cause you to pass out. This is true. You then argued that breathing increased levels of CO2 will trigger survival instincts. This is also true, and exactly what grandparent said.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
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  - flangola7 3y ago
    That's not what they did at all

meepmorp 3y ago

What the does that have to do with what OP said? OP, correctly, pointed out that we don't detect the lack of O2, we detect a buildup of CO2 (because it causes respiratory acidosis). If the CO2 is removed, there's nothing to cause the panic response, the situation itself notwithstanding. It's still nea that it works with an impaired amygdala, though.

2-718-281-828 3y ago
first of all - the co2 isn't removed ...
- WithinReason 3y ago
  It is, they had CO2 scrubbers
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    but not endlessly. those scrubbers are saturated after a while. that's the whole point. otherwise suffocation wouldn't be a threat to begin with. why do i have to argue here with so many people about something so simple to understand?
    - WithinReason 3y ago
      The CO2 scrubbers were in masks which could be replaced and there was enough for 96 hours
      - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
        how is that even relevant to the question here? i'm out, have a good day
- meepmorp 3y ago
  It's called a hypothetical.

uppiiii765 3y ago

But kids and people die regularly due to having a barbeque thing lit in a close space and the coals consume the oxygen and make CO2. Wouldn't that wake them up? I also assumed that too much CO2 fast is the key not the super slow version of what those people in the sub have experienced

Wojtkie 3y ago
You're confusing CO2 (carbon dioxide) with CO (carbon monoxide). CO doesn't cause the same physiological fear response that CO2 does.
2-718-281-828 3y ago
what you mean is CO - not CO2

slau 3y ago

You are arguing for the exact same thing as the person you’re replying to—while attempting to disagree with them. They said that provided you can keep CO2 levels down, lack of oxygen will cause drowsiness and cause you to pass out. This is true. You then argued that breathing increased levels of CO2 will trigger survival instincts. This is also true, and exactly what grandparent said.

2-718-281-828 3y ago
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- flangola7 3y ago
  That's not what they did at all