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The thing is, I'm not so sure RedHat actually lost revenue over CentOS. The people who want to use CentOS is a very different type of userbase than the people w

by arp242 3y ago

The thing is, I'm not so sure RedHat actually lost revenue over CentOS. The people who want to use CentOS is a very different type of userbase than the people who would use RedHat/RHEL, and the CentOS people would simply choose Debian or something else over RedHat. From purely a business perspective I think the entire thing naïvely makes sense, from a far-away view without much knowledge of the business space. But once you look a bit closer I don't think it does.

eYrKEC2 3y ago
But, sometimes the people that use CentOS get hired by Mega-Corp and when their CTO requires a support contract with contracted SLA's, they choose RHEL instead of Ubuntu One, because they're way more familiar with RHEL'like systems instead of Debian systems. Yes, cheap/free people will be cheap/free, but sometimes they're not the decider.
IshKebab 3y ago
They definitely lost revenue. People use RHEL/CentOS because a load of software only officially supports Enterprise Linux. But why would they pay for RHEL if CentOS works fine?
- arp242 3y ago
  > a load of software only officially supports Enterprise Linux Which software is that?
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Basically all commercial EDA software. E.g. https://www.synopsys.com/support/licensing-installation-computeplatforms/compute-platforms/compute-platforms-roadmap.html https://www.synopsys.com/support/licensing-installation-comp...
  - wingmanjd 3y ago
    The database engine IBM DB2 didn't (doesn't?) officially support Centos. It had to be RHEL.
    - arp242 3y ago
      At this point at least they seem to support RHEL, CentOS, SUSE, and Ubuntu. Or at least, they offer downloads for it – I'm having a hard time navigating their documentation to find a more precise answer. But the people who are running Db2 probably has very little overlap with the people running CentOS, too. https://www.ibm.com/software/reports/compatibility/clarity-reports/report/html/softwareReqsForProduct?deliverableId=1914D8B0B6C211ECBDA1ED9610150DDC&osPlatforms=Linux&duComponentIds=S006%7CS004%7CS007%7CS005%7CS008%7CA003%7CA001%7CA002&mandatoryCapIds=183%7C25&optionalCapIds=47%7C17%7C1%7C131%7C35%7C20%7C28 https://www.ibm.com/software/reports/compatibility/clarity-r...
- ilc 3y ago
  Then they shouldn't have poked the bear. By taking out the CentOS Foundation, which was NEVER going to sell support. They created 2 companies that will sell support, and they still have the same issue. At the WORST those companies will have to buy a RHEL license somewhere in here, if Red Hat takes away redistribution rights on the srpms... they might as well put a gun to their own head. SuSE will take the business gladly.

by arp242 3y ago

eYrKEC2 3y ago

But, sometimes the people that use CentOS get hired by Mega-Corp and when their CTO requires a support contract with contracted SLA's, they choose RHEL instead of Ubuntu One, because they're way more familiar with RHEL'like systems instead of Debian systems. Yes, cheap/free people will be cheap/free, but sometimes they're not the decider.

IshKebab 3y ago

They definitely lost revenue. People use RHEL/CentOS because a load of software only officially supports Enterprise Linux. But why would they pay for RHEL if CentOS works fine?

arp242 3y ago
> a load of software only officially supports Enterprise Linux Which software is that?
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Basically all commercial EDA software. E.g. https://www.synopsys.com/support/licensing-installation-computeplatforms/compute-platforms/compute-platforms-roadmap.html https://www.synopsys.com/support/licensing-installation-comp...
- wingmanjd 3y ago
  The database engine IBM DB2 didn't (doesn't?) officially support Centos. It had to be RHEL.
  - arp242 3y ago
    At this point at least they seem to support RHEL, CentOS, SUSE, and Ubuntu. Or at least, they offer downloads for it – I'm having a hard time navigating their documentation to find a more precise answer. But the people who are running Db2 probably has very little overlap with the people running CentOS, too. https://www.ibm.com/software/reports/compatibility/clarity-reports/report/html/softwareReqsForProduct?deliverableId=1914D8B0B6C211ECBDA1ED9610150DDC&osPlatforms=Linux&duComponentIds=S006%7CS004%7CS007%7CS005%7CS008%7CA003%7CA001%7CA002&mandatoryCapIds=183%7C25&optionalCapIds=47%7C17%7C1%7C131%7C35%7C20%7C28 https://www.ibm.com/software/reports/compatibility/clarity-r...
ilc 3y ago
Then they shouldn't have poked the bear. By taking out the CentOS Foundation, which was NEVER going to sell support. They created 2 companies that will sell support, and they still have the same issue. At the WORST those companies will have to buy a RHEL license somewhere in here, if Red Hat takes away redistribution rights on the srpms... they might as well put a gun to their own head. SuSE will take the business gladly.