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Discussion from 2 years ago when this was new: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28434012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28434012

2Gkashmiri 3y ago
2 years ago matrix did not have voice rooms. Now we have video rooms. How far stuff moves forward in short time.
- alecnotthompson 3y ago
  100 years ago, I was not born. Now, I am born. How things happen in arbitrary periods of time.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  > short time 1/40th of an average human life isn't really that short. That's 400-700 calendar work days depending on your work ethitcs, possibly thousands of man days. That's an eternity gone in the blink of an eye, not a short time. Life is what is short. :(
  - colinsane 3y ago
    the first COTS videophones appeared > 50 years ago (though very expensive). either that adds to your existential angst or now you can frame this as a leap forward: “50 years without any widely deployed open source video-conferencing stack and suddenly it was rolled out to millions of users in the last 5% of that timeline with the majority of those end users not having to go out of their way for it.” it’s up to you.
    - arghwhat 3y ago
      I'll reword that: - The technology was attempted and failed 50 years ago, like so many other things. - 12 years ago, video calls (1-to-1) became available to everyone - 4 years ago, for inexplicable reasons, demand spiked for videoconferencing. MS Teams gained an annoying foothold. - Around the same time, Jitsi Meet usage goes up as an easily accessible open source solution. - 2 years ago (looks like only 1 when checking), Matrix replaces integration with a native feature, for standalone feature parity with the rest of the space. Not that exciting a timeline...
  - imtringued 3y ago
    I disagree. If something reminds me of what I did six months ago I feel like I am a completely different human than that person. Life isn't short. Our memory is. Imagine if everyone goes to heaven after they die but the first thing they must do in the afterlife is to watch a perfect recording of their entire life before they enter heaven. How many of those viewers are going to complain that life is too short?

2Gkashmiri 3y ago

2 years ago matrix did not have voice rooms. Now we have video rooms. How far stuff moves forward in short time.

alecnotthompson 3y ago
100 years ago, I was not born. Now, I am born. How things happen in arbitrary periods of time.
arghwhat 3y ago
> short time 1/40th of an average human life isn't really that short. That's 400-700 calendar work days depending on your work ethitcs, possibly thousands of man days. That's an eternity gone in the blink of an eye, not a short time. Life is what is short. :(
- colinsane 3y ago
  the first COTS videophones appeared > 50 years ago (though very expensive). either that adds to your existential angst or now you can frame this as a leap forward: “50 years without any widely deployed open source video-conferencing stack and suddenly it was rolled out to millions of users in the last 5% of that timeline with the majority of those end users not having to go out of their way for it.” it’s up to you.
  - arghwhat 3y ago
    I'll reword that: - The technology was attempted and failed 50 years ago, like so many other things. - 12 years ago, video calls (1-to-1) became available to everyone - 4 years ago, for inexplicable reasons, demand spiked for videoconferencing. MS Teams gained an annoying foothold. - Around the same time, Jitsi Meet usage goes up as an easily accessible open source solution. - 2 years ago (looks like only 1 when checking), Matrix replaces integration with a native feature, for standalone feature parity with the rest of the space. Not that exciting a timeline...
- imtringued 3y ago
  I disagree. If something reminds me of what I did six months ago I feel like I am a completely different human than that person. Life isn't short. Our memory is. Imagine if everyone goes to heaven after they die but the first thing they must do in the afterlife is to watch a perfect recording of their entire life before they enter heaven. How many of those viewers are going to complain that life is too short?