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Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.

by ClassicOrgin 3y ago

quasse 3y ago
The banging was likely the sound of hundreds of news organizations flogging this story to get more clicks.
- dehrmann 3y ago
  At least the story is more compelling than the Chinese spy balloon.
- can16358p 3y ago
  Nope; banging was officially announced in the press conference of the search and rescue team. Though they could not confirm that it was really the sub (they probably thought that it was, but they can't officially say it).
  - popey 3y ago
    I think your sarcasm detector has developed a fault.
    - can16358p 3y ago
      Yeah, I was just too focused into the event to think properly... and even the sounds were apparently not it anyway.
- 50 3y ago
  compared to the little coverage of the vessel carrying hundreds of migrants which capsized and sank in the mediterranean, and, by factor of sitting, watching, and waiting without intervening, were killed by the eu and greek coast guard
ak_111 3y ago
Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of course would very much hope it imploded way before any psychological trauma was inflected on the passengers, but sadly I think the most consistent hypothesis with the little data we have is that it got lost and went astray for around two days then imploded.
- WillPostForFood 3y ago
  It unexpectedly lost communications about 2 hours into its decent. That is a possible/probable point in time where something went wrong.
  - jamiek88 3y ago
    It’s also the point where they pass the depth that the porthole was rated for. They got lucky with that until they didn’t. They even fired a guy for whistle blowing about the porthole.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Are you telling me, that the porthole of a DSV, intended to dive to the Titanic, was EDIT: not: rated for the depth the Titanic is at? This whole operation is getting sketchier by the minute...
      - inferiorhuman 3y ago
        They didn't want to spend the money to build a portal rated to 4000m.
      - inferiorhuman 3y ago
        https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-safety-concerns-about-oceangates-submersible-in-2018-then-he-was-fired/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-saf... The filing states that OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the Titan’s intended depth of 4,000 meters. The Titanic lies about 3,800 meters below the surface. The filing also claims that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible.

Based on this it seems pretty likely that it immediately imploded and the ‘banging’ was from the Titanic debris itself.

quasse 3y ago

The banging was likely the sound of hundreds of news organizations flogging this story to get more clicks.

dehrmann 3y ago
At least the story is more compelling than the Chinese spy balloon.
can16358p 3y ago
Nope; banging was officially announced in the press conference of the search and rescue team. Though they could not confirm that it was really the sub (they probably thought that it was, but they can't officially say it).
- popey 3y ago
  I think your sarcasm detector has developed a fault.
  - can16358p 3y ago
    Yeah, I was just too focused into the event to think properly... and even the sounds were apparently not it anyway.
50 3y ago
compared to the little coverage of the vessel carrying hundreds of migrants which capsized and sank in the mediterranean, and, by factor of sitting, watching, and waiting without intervening, were killed by the eu and greek coast guard

ak_111 3y ago

Why is it more likely that it immediately imploded rather than after a few days? The latter is more probable to me as it has never been tested under water for more than a few hours at a stretch. This will also be consistent with your banging hypothesis which was only heard after a day or two when it got lost. And also with the fact that no immediate sound disturbance was registered with the controlling ship. I of course would very much hope it imploded way before any psychological trauma was inflected on the passengers, but sadly I think the most consistent hypothesis with the little data we have is that it got lost and went astray for around two days then imploded.

WillPostForFood 3y ago
It unexpectedly lost communications about 2 hours into its decent. That is a possible/probable point in time where something went wrong.
- jamiek88 3y ago
  It’s also the point where they pass the depth that the porthole was rated for. They got lucky with that until they didn’t. They even fired a guy for whistle blowing about the porthole.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Are you telling me, that the porthole of a DSV, intended to dive to the Titanic, was EDIT: not: rated for the depth the Titanic is at? This whole operation is getting sketchier by the minute...
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      They didn't want to spend the money to build a portal rated to 4000m.
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-safety-concerns-about-oceangates-submersible-in-2018-then-he-was-fired/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/20/a-whistleblower-raised-saf... The filing states that OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the Titan’s intended depth of 4,000 meters. The Titanic lies about 3,800 meters below the surface. The filing also claims that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible.