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Computers were invented to speed up calculations, and yet the primary thing we use them for today is to read the news and send each other messages and memes… I
by mpolichette 3y ago
Computers were invented to speed up calculations, and yet the primary thing we use them for today is to read the news and send each other messages and memes…
I think it’s totally reasonable, to expect developers to find the real use
- jacquesm 3y agoIt's the users that will find the real use.
- moffkalast 3y agoIs that why they call them users?
- jacquesm 3y agoNot necessarily. Developers and product designers assume that users are going to use their product in a particular way. In my - limited - experience in those roles users tend to find entirely different ways to use your product that you never ever would have thought of, and if you had thought of them would have had significant impact on the product itself. The resulting impedance mismatch tends to be overcome with ruthless applications of duct tape, post-it notes, bending and twisting of parts and - unfortunately - the overruling of safety devices and lock-outs.
- pohl 3y agoSo — pornography, then.
- jacquesm 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36424434 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36424434
- thesuperbigfrog 3y agoA killer app might be: "Better Than Life: Las Vegas" Games, gambling, shows, and porn all in one "so immersive you won't want to leave" experience. "Disney ain't got nuthin' on this!"
- skeeter2020 3y agoSo we're supposed to get excited about our future Brave New World?
- thesuperbigfrog 3y agoThat depends on your view of VR entertainment and Las Vegas-style (adult) attractions. The Vision Pro was showcased with Disney as a content partner. While Disney has historically featured "family friendly" entertainment, there is definitely a market for adult entertainment that the Vision Pro could excel in. Is it "an exciting Las Vegas adventure in the privacy of your home" or "a lonely person in a dark room trying to escape the sadness of reality"?
- disqard 3y agoYou're the Hiro Protagonist of your own story -- Y Not Both? FWIW, my take is that this is yet another "slippery" media [0] and will mutate to whatever form brings its creators the most succe$$ [0] https://www.robinsloan.com/newsletters/visions/ https://www.robinsloan.com/newsletters/visions/
- sneak 3y agoApple won't allow porn-focused applications in their stores. Apple won't allow alternate stores on Apple-branded mobile devices, or sideloading. This is a fundamental disrespect of their customers who have purchased the device. Apple regards their brand image more than allowing their customers to display what they want on the device they own.
- bzzzt 3y agoThere is a browser on that thing. There will be generic 3d viewers that can access content over the internet. I think you can display what you want one way or the other. That they don't want porn to be the centerpiece I can understand. That's very problematic or outright illegal in most parts of the world.
- FPGAhacker 3y agoIn one or more of William Gibson’s early books, maybe neuromancer, there was a think called simstim where you could vicariously live a celebrity’s life as they live streamed their daily existence while wearing a headset. Combine that and pornography and I think you’ve nailed it. Pun possibly intended.
- twiceaday 3y agoHey, I've seen this one! https://vimeo.com/144850907 https://vimeo.com/144850907
- hipjiveguy 3y agoAny talk of Vision Pro should include a link to this 1983 movie (Brainstorm) that features Christopher Walken https://youtu.be/NNiZP2G-nEM https://youtu.be/NNiZP2G-nEM
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago“Why is it every time a new thing is invented, humans immediately try to use for it porn?” - Janet, the Good Place
- furyofantares 3y agoHopefully it's as open as macOS, or at least much, much closer to it than iOS. Otherwise the options for exploration are limited by Apple.
- ohgodplsno 3y agoIt is more locked down than both.
- threeseed 3y agoNew opportunities for abuse do exist with Vision Pro. If you allowed free reign access to the sensors people could record the inside of your house/work, capture your face, fingerprints, retinal pattern etc. And again with Objective-C it's impossible to prevent private API usage unless you have some sort of App Store model which can inspect the binaries and prevent abuse. So it's ultimately going to be the same as iOS.
- Someone 3y ago> And again with Objective-C it's impossible to prevent private API usage unless you have some sort of App Store model which can inspect the binaries and prevent abuse. A alternative is to sandbox applications to prevent them from calling anything else than the official API, and to use a less restrictive sandbox for applications signed by a key owned by the vendor.
- TheBrokenRail 3y ago> If you allowed free reign access to the sensors people could record the inside of your house/work, capture your face, fingerprints, retinal pattern etc. Yes, yes they could. That's not and shouldn't be Apple's problem. That's your workplace's problem to regulate how the device is used on-site, the government's problem to regulate how it can be used in public, your household's problem on how it can be used in private, etc. The device will be inevitably jail-broken anyways, so a walled-garden isn't going to stop bad actors. Not to mention, most of the things you mentioned can already be accomplished with less expensive and much more subtle devices, like a standard digital camera. And those device definitely don't try to prevent abuse. (Imagine if your camera refused to take a picture because it thought you didn't have permission!)
- paxcoder 3y ago[dead]
- paxys 3y agoComputers had a 100% open platform from day 1. Tell me, will Apple allow a pornography app for the Vision Pro?
- basisword 3y agoIt has a web browser. You can access anything you want via that, same as the phone.
- paxys 3y agoSays who? Is Apple going to make the entire Vision SDK web compatible?
- russelg 3y agoSafari was shown in the demos.
- PeterisP 3y agoThe question isn't whether you can view the existing web content on the Vision Pro, the question is whether all of the Vision Pro SDK, sensors, and 3D functionality is exposed to the browser to enable VR-enabled webapps for the genres which Apple would disallow on their app store.
- astrange 3y agohttps://immersiveweb.dev https://immersiveweb.dev
- stemlord 3y agoNeither a web browser, nor the iPhone are remotely comparable to a general purpose computer in terms of free use
- ramesh31 3y ago
- zirgs 3y agoVideo games require A LOT of calculations.