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Just keep reading. It gets better: My older boy is also taking a few online music classes in his two non-dominant languages. (My kids are trilingual and I alw

Just keep reading. It gets better: My older boy is also taking a few online music classes in his two non-dominant languages. (My kids are trilingual and I always look for ways to increase their non-dominant language exposure.)

zwieback 3y ago
The kids will complain to each other about their overbearing parents in a language only they understand.
- euroderf 3y ago
  Speaking of which, there are anecdotes about twins who invent and use their own "DIY" spoken languages, but I've never read a good academic treatment of the topic and I don't even know what the proper search terms would be.
bluecalm 3y ago
It's just reality for immigrants from different countries living in America, you know? You gotta learn three to function and communicate with your grand parents and and the rest of the family as they rarely speak any English. That is especially so if you want to teach them something about culture in a country you grew up in. (I am not the author, my family member is. I find the comments about bragging just silly. It's a lot of work to keep the family connections across cultures and languages).
- lisasays 3y ago
  I find the comments about bragging just silly Don't know what to tell you, other than that the whole piece just reeks of compulsive status signalling. And why would one throw their "just look at our little prodigies-in-bloom" story up on the internet -- except to have people comment on it? Or is it only fawning and applauding comments they were expecting?
  - ctvo 3y ago
    I wrote the original comment, and I (obviously) agree. It's cringe, and could have been written without these additions. It reminds me of the Tiger mom articles popularized with Amy Chua's work. - Tiger parenting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_parenting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_parenting
  - bjornlouser 3y ago
    I think this is marketing for the app 'Little Musician'
    - ambicapter 3y ago
      This is a hilarious comment because from what I remember (article seems to be down) the biggest descriptor I remember her giving is that its an app that leaks memory. I think that was the very first thing she said about it.
      - bjornlouser 3y ago
        Ah yes, because people won't pay for software that has a few bugs.
        ambicapter 3y ago
        That's not really the point, the point is no one markets an app by opening with its faults.
  - fsckboy 3y ago
    >Don't know what to tell you, other than that the whole piece just reeks of compulsive status signalling. some cultures expect status signaling, a parent who does not do it is thought to be ashamed of the kids, and so the kids must not be very good. Some other cultures use it as a "language of love" to their children, encouraging them further. Some other cultures don't speak positively or much at all (ever hear about the old Swedish farmer who loved his wife soooo much he almost told her?) And even in those cultures there is a way to express pride or not express it, it's calibration. Culture needs translation just like language. You can still read between the lines of the pride and learn something about what the parent is doing and how it's working. We don't have to like everybody we work with, everybody who teaches us, etc. in order to learn from them.
- Mutlut 3y ago
  There is no real culture left after just 2 generations. We already live in a modern world. I have seen probably more culture from a lot more countries than anyone before us all. It really takes time and energy to get culture. Culture is not just a few family traditions or a little bit of food. Besides, i do think culture became much more generic the last 30 years due to how we are now connected. Everyone has coca cola (which is ridiculous), everyone ewars colorful tshirts from adidas and all the other brands we know. We took culture and mangeld it in sending cheap old cloth to other countries, exporting everything and stop embracing local things. And even if you do, sometimes you see how those local people cook (in which conditions) and than you are happy about the generic imported coca cola because they never heard of hygene. There was a Youtube Video were someone interviewed people in germany / munich and asked them how living here changed them. And thats very interesting culture wise: They said things which were very german like 'no longer talking to anyone on the street just for fun' or being more on time etc. I bet this cultural trades took much more than just a few weeks to get ingrained.
blitzar 3y ago
> My kids are trilingual Those poor parents, maybe on their next child - if they do raise them properly, that child will be able to speak 5 or 6 languages.

zwieback 3y ago

The kids will complain to each other about their overbearing parents in a language only they understand.

euroderf 3y ago
Speaking of which, there are anecdotes about twins who invent and use their own "DIY" spoken languages, but I've never read a good academic treatment of the topic and I don't even know what the proper search terms would be.

bluecalm 3y ago

It's just reality for immigrants from different countries living in America, you know? You gotta learn three to function and communicate with your grand parents and and the rest of the family as they rarely speak any English. That is especially so if you want to teach them something about culture in a country you grew up in. (I am not the author, my family member is. I find the comments about bragging just silly. It's a lot of work to keep the family connections across cultures and languages).

lisasays 3y ago
I find the comments about bragging just silly Don't know what to tell you, other than that the whole piece just reeks of compulsive status signalling. And why would one throw their "just look at our little prodigies-in-bloom" story up on the internet -- except to have people comment on it? Or is it only fawning and applauding comments they were expecting?
- ctvo 3y ago
  I wrote the original comment, and I (obviously) agree. It's cringe, and could have been written without these additions. It reminds me of the Tiger mom articles popularized with Amy Chua's work. - Tiger parenting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_parenting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_parenting
- bjornlouser 3y ago
  I think this is marketing for the app 'Little Musician'
  - ambicapter 3y ago
    This is a hilarious comment because from what I remember (article seems to be down) the biggest descriptor I remember her giving is that its an app that leaks memory. I think that was the very first thing she said about it.
    - bjornlouser 3y ago
      Ah yes, because people won't pay for software that has a few bugs.
      - ambicapter 3y ago
        That's not really the point, the point is no one markets an app by opening with its faults.
- fsckboy 3y ago
  >Don't know what to tell you, other than that the whole piece just reeks of compulsive status signalling. some cultures expect status signaling, a parent who does not do it is thought to be ashamed of the kids, and so the kids must not be very good. Some other cultures use it as a "language of love" to their children, encouraging them further. Some other cultures don't speak positively or much at all (ever hear about the old Swedish farmer who loved his wife soooo much he almost told her?) And even in those cultures there is a way to express pride or not express it, it's calibration. Culture needs translation just like language. You can still read between the lines of the pride and learn something about what the parent is doing and how it's working. We don't have to like everybody we work with, everybody who teaches us, etc. in order to learn from them.
Mutlut 3y ago
There is no real culture left after just 2 generations. We already live in a modern world. I have seen probably more culture from a lot more countries than anyone before us all. It really takes time and energy to get culture. Culture is not just a few family traditions or a little bit of food. Besides, i do think culture became much more generic the last 30 years due to how we are now connected. Everyone has coca cola (which is ridiculous), everyone ewars colorful tshirts from adidas and all the other brands we know. We took culture and mangeld it in sending cheap old cloth to other countries, exporting everything and stop embracing local things. And even if you do, sometimes you see how those local people cook (in which conditions) and than you are happy about the generic imported coca cola because they never heard of hygene. There was a Youtube Video were someone interviewed people in germany / munich and asked them how living here changed them. And thats very interesting culture wise: They said things which were very german like 'no longer talking to anyone on the street just for fun' or being more on time etc. I bet this cultural trades took much more than just a few weeks to get ingrained.

blitzar 3y ago

> My kids are trilingual Those poor parents, maybe on their next child - if they do raise them properly, that child will be able to speak 5 or 6 languages.