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20k sounds good. Also a good reminder to just work in an idgaf mode. Their success is not your success. Work the least you can to avoid being fired, and try to

20k sounds good. Also a good reminder to just work in an idgaf mode. Their success is not your success. Work the least you can to avoid being fired, and try to improve yourself whether it aligns with the company goals or not.

mistrial9 3y ago
20k is "chump change"
- subsection1h 3y ago
  Yeah, many of these comments are bizarre. And the fact that you were downvoted is bonkers. I got a $5k bonus in 2004 at a non-FAANG for simply installing a single software program from source (I forget what it was) that wasn't in Debian's package repos at the time. I realize that HN in 2023 is a far different place than it was in the beginning, but has the percentage of users in rural states and developing nations skyrocketed recently or something?
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    there might be some psychology about a) low-effort postulation b) mentioning money amount directly, which is directly different for different economies and life circumstances. It is my opinion but it might not be constructive.. for example I am easily offended by "all money all the time" type talkers, and there are many variaties of those.. its not inclusive but its not an inclusive topic either. last, harsh times call out harsh talk.. the economic stories here are so across the board. It does raise the blood pressure simply reading some days $0.02
RajT88 3y ago
20k is not a good bonus for this company. That's the bonus plan for a run of the mill engineer just starting out there. You'll find college grads hired right out of school with a higher bonus plan.
- Abroszka 3y ago
  Why? I think this is something extra on top of their usual bonus plan.
  - RajT88 3y ago
    If that is the case, it is not that bad. You're probably talking going from 280k TC to 300k TC at that point.
    - Abroszka 3y ago
      I would assume so. It's Microsoft after all. All big companies have some kind of "bonus" in your salary especially in America. I think 20k is too low to be that. I get more than that and I work in the EU.
    - sgerenser 3y ago
      The “normal” (meaning you met expectations but didn’t wildly exceed) bonus at Microsoft for a L65/L66 (Principal) level is 20% of base salary. Officially the range is 0-40% but the vast majority will get 20%. Base salary at this range is about $200-$250K, so a normal bonus would be $40-$50K at that level.

mistrial9 3y ago

20k is "chump change"

subsection1h 3y ago
Yeah, many of these comments are bizarre. And the fact that you were downvoted is bonkers. I got a $5k bonus in 2004 at a non-FAANG for simply installing a single software program from source (I forget what it was) that wasn't in Debian's package repos at the time. I realize that HN in 2023 is a far different place than it was in the beginning, but has the percentage of users in rural states and developing nations skyrocketed recently or something?
- mistrial9 3y ago
  there might be some psychology about a) low-effort postulation b) mentioning money amount directly, which is directly different for different economies and life circumstances. It is my opinion but it might not be constructive.. for example I am easily offended by "all money all the time" type talkers, and there are many variaties of those.. its not inclusive but its not an inclusive topic either. last, harsh times call out harsh talk.. the economic stories here are so across the board. It does raise the blood pressure simply reading some days $0.02

RajT88 3y ago

20k is not a good bonus for this company. That's the bonus plan for a run of the mill engineer just starting out there. You'll find college grads hired right out of school with a higher bonus plan.

Abroszka 3y ago
Why? I think this is something extra on top of their usual bonus plan.
- RajT88 3y ago
  If that is the case, it is not that bad. You're probably talking going from 280k TC to 300k TC at that point.
  - Abroszka 3y ago
    I would assume so. It's Microsoft after all. All big companies have some kind of "bonus" in your salary especially in America. I think 20k is too low to be that. I get more than that and I work in the EU.
  - sgerenser 3y ago
    The “normal” (meaning you met expectations but didn’t wildly exceed) bonus at Microsoft for a L65/L66 (Principal) level is 20% of base salary. Officially the range is 0-40% but the vast majority will get 20%. Base salary at this range is about $200-$250K, so a normal bonus would be $40-$50K at that level.