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~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how b

~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how big this will get.

ActionHank 3y ago
I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.
- Paul-Craft 3y ago
  I'm blanking out my 10 year old account (after requesting my data dump) sometime around the first if they don't do something to reverse course.
  - deevious 3y ago
    I requested GDPR exports for my accounts 8 days ago, nothing turned up yet. I have shreddit lined up to run as soon as I get my zips.
    - Paul-Craft 3y ago
      I've heard of multiple people who have done the same and have had the same problem. It seems either so many people are requesting their data that it's bogging down the process, Reddit is deliberately slow-playing it, or both.
    - samstave 3y ago
      Does one have to be an EU citizen to request via GDRP? If so - I made the offer to sell my accounts to any GDRP person for $1 such that I can make those requests for data (ill pay more than $1, its just to make it an actual transaction) I have 17 years of content contributed to reddit... and I'd like to kill it all.
  - accrual 3y ago
    I was curious to see HN's view on removing Reddit account data. I have a couple old accounts (>12 years) with many thousands of comments. My personal perspective is that deleting all these comments, some of which contain technical help, advice, solutions, etc., would really be a net-negative for everyone. I understand wanting to send a message to Reddit leadership, but in reality the blip is so small as to probably not even register. On the other hand, those comments will probably be valuable to someone, somewhere, sometime and all I'd be doing is harming those future readers and salting the metaphorical earth. Looking further into the future, let's assume Reddit collapses in 5 years in 2027. The money is dried up, management is gone, and all that's left are decades of data hopefully archived. Are people 5, 10, 20 years from now going to appreciate that a subset of data was purged in protest? Or are they going to appreciate that they found some useful data still in the archive that might actually help something? I'd rather be in the latter camp. And maybe one day someone will ask their at-home AI bot a question about <niche topic>, and a small part of me will be emitted in the output.
    - Nexxxeh 3y ago
      I've been helped by old posts from others on Reddit and elsewhere. It seems like a dick move to delete mine.
- chongli 3y ago
  I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?
  - bigyikes 3y ago
    It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.
    - chongli 3y ago
      The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.
  - izzydata 3y ago
    I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.
- Aachen 3y ago
  Same-ish, but: I'm not using reddit in the meantime to send a message of "this is what you're looking at when reddit keeps their current plans". I don't know if that's also part of your master plan, but if not, at least if a significant number of people think like that, then reddit has little reason to care. I'm also on Tildes now, probably because of the invite-only FOMO, but a full comparative study (figuring out which lemmy instance to sign up with, as well as looking into other alternatives) is something I'll be forced to do only after June 30th, and I've mastered the art of procrastination so it's not going to be any sooner.
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bogwog 3y ago
It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.
- samstave 3y ago
  Im really suprised nobody has recommended Saiddit... however, reddit admins went and setup accounts there early on...
- NoboruWataya 3y ago
  Exactly. To me, all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction. 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap, I would be happy if it stayed on Reddit or went somewhere else entirely. All I want to know is whether Lemmy can reach a critical mass where there is enough going on there that it's worth visiting.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup process hangs and spins forever. If your password is longer than 20 characters or so, the signup process hangs and spins forever. Etc. etc. Its not the best process and these bugs need to be fixed. But if you're like me (who created at the right time with a typical password and typical username), you probably get in to https://lemmy.world https://lemmy.world just fine.
nologic01 3y ago
This is quite remarkable. It not just the numbers. Those are likely opinionated reddit users that will help the platform go faster through its baby steps.

~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how big this will get.

ActionHank 3y ago

I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.

Paul-Craft 3y ago
I'm blanking out my 10 year old account (after requesting my data dump) sometime around the first if they don't do something to reverse course.
- deevious 3y ago
  I requested GDPR exports for my accounts 8 days ago, nothing turned up yet. I have shreddit lined up to run as soon as I get my zips.
  - Paul-Craft 3y ago
    I've heard of multiple people who have done the same and have had the same problem. It seems either so many people are requesting their data that it's bogging down the process, Reddit is deliberately slow-playing it, or both.
  - samstave 3y ago
    Does one have to be an EU citizen to request via GDRP? If so - I made the offer to sell my accounts to any GDRP person for $1 such that I can make those requests for data (ill pay more than $1, its just to make it an actual transaction) I have 17 years of content contributed to reddit... and I'd like to kill it all.
- accrual 3y ago
  I was curious to see HN's view on removing Reddit account data. I have a couple old accounts (>12 years) with many thousands of comments. My personal perspective is that deleting all these comments, some of which contain technical help, advice, solutions, etc., would really be a net-negative for everyone. I understand wanting to send a message to Reddit leadership, but in reality the blip is so small as to probably not even register. On the other hand, those comments will probably be valuable to someone, somewhere, sometime and all I'd be doing is harming those future readers and salting the metaphorical earth. Looking further into the future, let's assume Reddit collapses in 5 years in 2027. The money is dried up, management is gone, and all that's left are decades of data hopefully archived. Are people 5, 10, 20 years from now going to appreciate that a subset of data was purged in protest? Or are they going to appreciate that they found some useful data still in the archive that might actually help something? I'd rather be in the latter camp. And maybe one day someone will ask their at-home AI bot a question about <niche topic>, and a small part of me will be emitted in the output.
  - Nexxxeh 3y ago
    I've been helped by old posts from others on Reddit and elsewhere. It seems like a dick move to delete mine.
chongli 3y ago
I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?
- bigyikes 3y ago
  It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.
  - chongli 3y ago
    The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.
- izzydata 3y ago
  I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.
Aachen 3y ago
Same-ish, but: I'm not using reddit in the meantime to send a message of "this is what you're looking at when reddit keeps their current plans". I don't know if that's also part of your master plan, but if not, at least if a significant number of people think like that, then reddit has little reason to care. I'm also on Tildes now, probably because of the invite-only FOMO, but a full comparative study (figuring out which lemmy instance to sign up with, as well as looking into other alternatives) is something I'll be forced to do only after June 30th, and I've mastered the art of procrastination so it's not going to be any sooner.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

bogwog 3y ago

It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.

samstave 3y ago
Im really suprised nobody has recommended Saiddit... however, reddit admins went and setup accounts there early on...
NoboruWataya 3y ago
Exactly. To me, all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction. 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap, I would be happy if it stayed on Reddit or went somewhere else entirely. All I want to know is whether Lemmy can reach a critical mass where there is enough going on there that it's worth visiting.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup process hangs and spins forever. If your password is longer than 20 characters or so, the signup process hangs and spins forever. Etc. etc. Its not the best process and these bugs need to be fixed. But if you're like me (who created at the right time with a typical password and typical username), you probably get in to https://lemmy.world https://lemmy.world just fine.

nologic01 3y ago

This is quite remarkable. It not just the numbers. Those are likely opinionated reddit users that will help the platform go faster through its baby steps.