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It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know,

It would be such vengeful bliss if Apollo were to help start an alternative to Reddit by changing over to another service/creative another service. Yes I know, the back end is difficult, but Apollo currently has a huge reach and moral advantage it feels too good an opportunity to squander.

nojito 3y ago
Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.
- hendersoon 3y ago
  Not zero, his current userbase would probably be amenable, but you're correct in that's a very small proportion of Reddit's total users. I don't see federated alternatives taking off after Mastodon/Twitter. Most people I followed on Twitter didn't move to Mastodon, they simply stopped posting anywhere. My feeling is these platforms will slowly die, but that'll take a very long time to come to fruition, same as digg and myspace.
- EA-3167 3y ago
  So much of Reddit's reach is grasping at crap though, the idea that to compete with Reddit you need hundreds of millions of active users out of the gate isn't useful either. A "Reddit" with hundreds of thousands of active users, perhaps growing to an HN size community over years, is far more appealing to me at least than a giant that comes out of the gate baying for VC money and blood.
- graypegg 3y ago
  True, but if it was jump starting a service with 100 people, I’m sure Apollo would be huge in comparison. I get the idea. But also I think people would want something like Lemmy or another federated service, which don’t really fit into Apollo that well. (Instances, federated login, etc) so I don’t really think it would’ve been feasible anyway.
- JoeyJoJoJr 3y ago
  Apollo can be quality content with dedicated users, and Reddit can be for the masses.
- nunez 3y ago
  I would use whatever Lemmy instance Apollo would tie its hitch to, without question. Can't be the only one.
- replwoacause 3y ago
  I don’t know about minuscule. But when Apollo got screwed over by Reddit I dropped Reddit in an instant and haven’t looked back. It wasn’t that hard tbh. If Apollo linked up to another backend I’d be up for giving it a try.
- solarkraft 3y ago
  Not at all. Reddit has burned up all of its good will and users are actively looking for an alternative (which seems to be Lemmy at this point). Apollo wouldn't even have to get all of its users over, even 10% would be a great start for organic growth. Even more: It would catapult Apollo into an actual controlling role regarding its market share on the new platform. Definitely seems a lot better than giving up. Reddit has confirmed its plans to die multiple times, so there's not much of a point still hoping for a change.

nojito 3y ago

Apollo’s reach is minuscule compared to Reddit as a whole. Plus their popularity is intrinsically tied to Reddit as a whole. They will have zero ability to peal users away.

hendersoon 3y ago
Not zero, his current userbase would probably be amenable, but you're correct in that's a very small proportion of Reddit's total users. I don't see federated alternatives taking off after Mastodon/Twitter. Most people I followed on Twitter didn't move to Mastodon, they simply stopped posting anywhere. My feeling is these platforms will slowly die, but that'll take a very long time to come to fruition, same as digg and myspace.
EA-3167 3y ago
So much of Reddit's reach is grasping at crap though, the idea that to compete with Reddit you need hundreds of millions of active users out of the gate isn't useful either. A "Reddit" with hundreds of thousands of active users, perhaps growing to an HN size community over years, is far more appealing to me at least than a giant that comes out of the gate baying for VC money and blood.
graypegg 3y ago
True, but if it was jump starting a service with 100 people, I’m sure Apollo would be huge in comparison. I get the idea. But also I think people would want something like Lemmy or another federated service, which don’t really fit into Apollo that well. (Instances, federated login, etc) so I don’t really think it would’ve been feasible anyway.
JoeyJoJoJr 3y ago
Apollo can be quality content with dedicated users, and Reddit can be for the masses.
nunez 3y ago
I would use whatever Lemmy instance Apollo would tie its hitch to, without question. Can't be the only one.
replwoacause 3y ago
I don’t know about minuscule. But when Apollo got screwed over by Reddit I dropped Reddit in an instant and haven’t looked back. It wasn’t that hard tbh. If Apollo linked up to another backend I’d be up for giving it a try.
solarkraft 3y ago
Not at all. Reddit has burned up all of its good will and users are actively looking for an alternative (which seems to be Lemmy at this point). Apollo wouldn't even have to get all of its users over, even 10% would be a great start for organic growth. Even more: It would catapult Apollo into an actual controlling role regarding its market share on the new platform. Definitely seems a lot better than giving up. Reddit has confirmed its plans to die multiple times, so there's not much of a point still hoping for a change.