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In the US? Genuinely curious who the dataset is for that.

rsynnott 3y ago
I'd guess in the US, where the average age at first birth is 27. This is rather early by developed world countries; in most it's closer to 30, and in some it's above 30.
- mistrial9 3y ago
  there is no average US citizen, it makes no sense to assert based on that. Demographics are fundamentally groups of groups, that are different. People here on YNews would recognize quickly "overfitting" or other statistical errors, but this demographic human quality somehow eludes public conversation.
  - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
    There is an average age that an American has their first child. No amount of 3+ syllable words negates that obvious fact...
    - mistrial9 3y ago
      no - in real life, each person has a child at some age. An aggregate of those numbers is still showing individual lives. Similar reasoning for "2.5 children" .. that is "average" but exactly zero people out of millions have 2.5 children in reality.
      - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
        I’m not claiming that’s there such thing as an average person, just that there is an average age that a person has their first child.
      - dekhn 3y ago
        So what? You're just saying the mean of a list of integers can be a rational number. There are a number of other ways to synthesize "Average" people from summary statistics, but none of this is worth being pedantic about.
        mistrial9 3y ago
        no sorry, its a beginner mistake to think that there are average people at all. For example, people who are not adults.. there is no meaning to "average" for children at 2 years, 6 years, 8 years, 12 years.. they are different. Its not an average.. it is a collection of groups.. Human populations are collections of groups that overlap in characteristics.. there is no "average" person
        mistrial9 3y ago
        from the other side, a real number product of mean, average etc. is .. a number. You can do lots of math with numbers, and you will get consistent results in a number sense.. but the model is not the creation
    - sethammons 3y ago
      On average, everyone has one testicle and one ovary. Cue the quote: there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statics

I'd guess in the US, where the average age at first birth is 27. This is rather early by developed world countries; in most it's closer to 30, and in some it's above 30.

mistrial9 3y ago
there is no average US citizen, it makes no sense to assert based on that. Demographics are fundamentally groups of groups, that are different. People here on YNews would recognize quickly "overfitting" or other statistical errors, but this demographic human quality somehow eludes public conversation.
- DiggyJohnson 3y ago
  There is an average age that an American has their first child. No amount of 3+ syllable words negates that obvious fact...
  - mistrial9 3y ago
    no - in real life, each person has a child at some age. An aggregate of those numbers is still showing individual lives. Similar reasoning for "2.5 children" .. that is "average" but exactly zero people out of millions have 2.5 children in reality.
    - DiggyJohnson 3y ago
      I’m not claiming that’s there such thing as an average person, just that there is an average age that a person has their first child.
    - dekhn 3y ago
      So what? You're just saying the mean of a list of integers can be a rational number. There are a number of other ways to synthesize "Average" people from summary statistics, but none of this is worth being pedantic about.
      - mistrial9 3y ago
        no sorry, its a beginner mistake to think that there are average people at all. For example, people who are not adults.. there is no meaning to "average" for children at 2 years, 6 years, 8 years, 12 years.. they are different. Its not an average.. it is a collection of groups.. Human populations are collections of groups that overlap in characteristics.. there is no "average" person
      - mistrial9 3y ago
        from the other side, a real number product of mean, average etc. is .. a number. You can do lots of math with numbers, and you will get consistent results in a number sense.. but the model is not the creation
  - sethammons 3y ago
    On average, everyone has one testicle and one ovary. Cue the quote: there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statics