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Can you give an indication of average salary?

by krageon 3y ago

midoridensha 3y ago
Can you give an indication of average salary in the US?
- iso1631 3y ago
  40k-4m depending on skills and company
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- htag 3y ago
  You can look at salary ranges on levels.fyi to get some indication of what pay is in different companies and cities in the US. For top level companies you can be looking at starting salaries around $150k for Bay Area.
  - midoridensha 3y ago
    I'm American; I know what salaries in the US are like. My point is there's no average salary; as the other person said, it can range between $40K and $4M.
    - krageon 3y ago
      If someone says something about the salaries explicitly they have numbers in mind and theories on how they should map. That's what I was after, and it's what I got. I think your stance that an average salary does not exist is nonsense, especially if you look at averages for seniority levels in relatively wealthy areas (which the entirety of Japan is).
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      - midoridensha 3y ago
        My stance is that an "average salary" is pointless because the range is simply too wide and depends on too many factors to condense into a 1-sentence reply. Also, the entirety of Japan isn't relatively wealthy, just like the US. The rural areas are dramatically cheaper to live in (for housing mainly) than the big cities. However, there's less "spread" than in the US: all the software jobs are going to be in a handful of large cities, not in some remote prefecture or village (whereas in the US, there are jobs in some smaller and even very small cities, where that one employer is likely the only place you can get such a job nearby and you'll have to move if the job goes bad). But even if you just look at Tokyo, the pay range can be enormous, at least a full order of magnitude.
kahnclusions 3y ago
For example, as a good senior engineer you could expect to get around 10-14m JPY, _maybe_ up to 16m is possible but a challenge. Mid-level probably 5-10m. That’s just based off what I was seeing when I was interviewing and considering a move there. Ultimately decided against it.
- Legogris 3y ago
  In higher skill/seniority levels ~30m salary (+equity/bonus) isn't outrageous expectations (the reason it might be unheard of is social/cultural). Even for ICs, not necessarily execs or managers. The positions/people I've encountered in this range have been for multinationals, 10+ yoe.
- krageon 3y ago
  These levels are entirely in line with what you can expect in Europe unless you are willing to do incredibly unethical work. Even then it is hard to go far over. I'd go so far as to say these are normal salary ranges, even.
junon 3y ago
By the way it's not just salary. They're also subsidizing up to 80% of the cost of a home.

Can you give an indication of average salary?

midoridensha 3y ago

Can you give an indication of average salary in the US?

iso1631 3y ago
40k-4m depending on skills and company
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htag 3y ago
You can look at salary ranges on levels.fyi to get some indication of what pay is in different companies and cities in the US. For top level companies you can be looking at starting salaries around $150k for Bay Area.
- midoridensha 3y ago
  I'm American; I know what salaries in the US are like. My point is there's no average salary; as the other person said, it can range between $40K and $4M.
  - krageon 3y ago
    If someone says something about the salaries explicitly they have numbers in mind and theories on how they should map. That's what I was after, and it's what I got. I think your stance that an average salary does not exist is nonsense, especially if you look at averages for seniority levels in relatively wealthy areas (which the entirety of Japan is).
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    - midoridensha 3y ago
      My stance is that an "average salary" is pointless because the range is simply too wide and depends on too many factors to condense into a 1-sentence reply. Also, the entirety of Japan isn't relatively wealthy, just like the US. The rural areas are dramatically cheaper to live in (for housing mainly) than the big cities. However, there's less "spread" than in the US: all the software jobs are going to be in a handful of large cities, not in some remote prefecture or village (whereas in the US, there are jobs in some smaller and even very small cities, where that one employer is likely the only place you can get such a job nearby and you'll have to move if the job goes bad). But even if you just look at Tokyo, the pay range can be enormous, at least a full order of magnitude.

kahnclusions 3y ago

For example, as a good senior engineer you could expect to get around 10-14m JPY, _maybe_ up to 16m is possible but a challenge. Mid-level probably 5-10m. That’s just based off what I was seeing when I was interviewing and considering a move there. Ultimately decided against it.

Legogris 3y ago
In higher skill/seniority levels ~30m salary (+equity/bonus) isn't outrageous expectations (the reason it might be unheard of is social/cultural). Even for ICs, not necessarily execs or managers. The positions/people I've encountered in this range have been for multinationals, 10+ yoe.
krageon 3y ago
These levels are entirely in line with what you can expect in Europe unless you are willing to do incredibly unethical work. Even then it is hard to go far over. I'd go so far as to say these are normal salary ranges, even.

junon 3y ago

By the way it's not just salary. They're also subsidizing up to 80% of the cost of a home.