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Joe Rogan and Elon Musk pressure scientist into ‘debating’ anti-vaxxer RFK Jr
- jleyank 3y agothis is a waste of time given the medium. Essentially nobody will change their opinion, and they'll end up yelling at each other for "entertainment". If the sides are so sure of their facts and their data, participate in the research and conference environment associated with vaccines, covid, etc. and present without the histrionics. Twain already commented on this. Are they questioning the deaths? Whether Covid existed? The vaccines and if so which one(s)? The concept of vaccines in general? The political and economic reaction to Covid? The impact on the world economy, ... It's an undefined "discussion" that will flow from item to item unconstrained by roadmap or justification.
- 11thEarlOfMar 3y agoThere will be no time limits, and we can expect to explore many or all of the questions you've elucidated, yes, in an unconstrained fashion. Just hearing a point-counterpoint with ad hominem attacks yellow carded by Rogan will be very, very refreshing.
- 11thEarlOfMar 3y agoLong form interviews with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will disabuse many of Kennedy's supposed extremism. Recommended: Joe Rogan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DQfcTY4viyXsIXQ89NXvg?si=345503f1e4814da4 https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DQfcTY4viyXsIXQ89NXvg?si=3... Jordan Peterson: https://rumble.com/v2t1gla-jordan-peterson-interviews-robert-f.-kennedy-jr..html https://rumble.com/v2t1gla-jordan-peterson-interviews-robert... Russell Brand: https://rumble.com/v2nermq-russell-and-rfk-jr-fauci-cia-secrets-and-running-for-president-128-stay-fre.html https://rumble.com/v2nermq-russell-and-rfk-jr-fauci-cia-secr...
- uLogMicheal 3y agoWe need more debate not less. Why is hiding from debate acceptable these days? Sometimes we need to face and think critically about alternate points of view and this cannot happen if people in the spotlight and candidates for office are allowed to hide from debate.
- alex_lav 3y agoTwo morons making a person do something they don’t want to isn’t the same as “hiding”
- uLogMicheal 3y agoPublic thought leaders should not get to pick and choose every question they answer. That's how we end up with two morons on a debate stage with no one genuine to choose. Great thought comes with great responsibility?
- clipsy 3y agoShould they get to pick and choose any question they answer? From what I've seen of RFK Jr's beliefs, this is one step above debating the homeless guy on the street corner ranting about the end times.
- uLogMicheal 3y agoWhat is the balance then? Must people have common ground for debate in a society where influence moves all? Two sides radically differing without debate might become echo-chambers with catastrophic collision at some point. They both certainly have followings.
- clipsy 3y agoI don't know what the balance is; when people embrace "alternative facts" I think there is fundamentally not a way to have a meaningful debate. Without a commonly accepted subset of (relevant) objective reality, all argumentation reduces to marketing. These sort of "debates" typically amount to little more than battles of charisma and oratory skill. Edit: But perhaps the more damning thing about such circumstances is that even if both debaters are charismatic, intelligent, and honest it simply results in two people talking past each other by making equally logical derivations from separate and irreconcilable sets of facts.
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- gigel82 3y ago“Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”