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This is a good point. The part of the WFH/RTO debate that seems to get overlooked is that people who were hired to WFH are the ones who are now being cajoled in
by smeej 3y ago
This is a good point. The part of the WFH/RTO debate that seems to get overlooked is that people who were hired to WFH are the ones who are now being cajoled into working from offices. It's the changing of the conditions with the "take it or leave it" stance toward the workers that's landing like a lead balloon.
If an office has only ever hired people to work in the office, a the people who worked for them remotely during the pandemic would be people who chose a job where they would be in an office. It's reasonable to expect they would prefer that environment and not mind returning (even if a few were converted to WFH preference by the experience). But any new hires chose WFH roles on purpose, and the conditions are being changed on them.
I worked for a company in 2017-8 where my whole team was remote, but then they decided to open offices and hire people to do the same work on-location. They flew me out to train them, and it was a disaster. My manager said, "I don't know what your problem is. All these other people work fine in an office."
I told her, "All these other people applied for an office job. They self-selected based on this requirement. I never, EVER would have. I do not work well in an office. I know this about myself, thus did not apply for an office job. Your temporary demand that I visit an office for two weeks is going exactly as I expected it would. I hate it, and it hates me."
- anotheritworker 3y ago> The part of the WFH/RTO debate that seems to get overlooked is that people who were hired to WFH are the ones who are now being cajoled into working from offices. Let's not forget that the opposite is also true. Most of us were hired to work in the office (before COVID), but after COVID most (?) companies kept going in various forms of hybrid work. My team never went back to the office. I didn't sign up to work from an empty office and take every meeting on zoom, but that's what I got. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad remote work is more popular now because it allowed me to move close to family. But had I decided to stay in the city I lived for the last 6 years, I would have to leave a company I love and look for a new job because I absolutely hate remote work.
- smeej 3y agoI haven't seen the stats I guess, but with as much turnover as there was during and after covid, are most people actually working for the same companies they were in 2019? It's probably largely industry-dependent, and probably split along several demographic lines besides, but only a handful (<10%ish) of my coworkers worked for the company before the pandemic.