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and how does the coupling work?

by 2-718-281-828 3y ago

ajuc 3y ago
Through our senses?
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  my question was to the parent. my point is that pretending like this is a trivial phenomenon is just naive. not sure what your reply is even supposed to mean or convey, frankly speaking.
  - ajuc 3y ago
    > > how does the coupling work? > through our senses I think it's pretty obvious what I meant? person A person A person B person B brain waves -> body -> senses -> brain waves <- senses <- body <-
    - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
      and what is this adding to the question of how this works or that it works? nothing. your suggestion is as speculative as it is generic.
      - wfme 3y ago
        Being insufferable is not required to get your point across. We all spend a fair bit of time discussing things without certainty. Immediately shooting those bits and pieces down only looks to end the discussion.
        2-718-281-828 3y ago
        the post i initially replied to is what aims at ending the discussion by pretending it's not a big deal if this is actually the case.
        IshKebab 3y ago
        He's not being insufferable; he's being sane.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    I see this type of comment and attitude way more often than I think is healthy, at least on HN. I think it's intellectual anxiety and or toxic masculinity.
    - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
      maybe because that subject has something esoteric about it which provokes reflexive disregard in some people.
    - 0xr0kk3r 3y ago
      It’s nothing of the sort. It’s the kind of reply you’d get if you tried to answer a exam question with nonsense words that doesn’t advance the conversation, at least intellectually. Your claim of toxic masculinity is absurd. People want to talk rationally and it can be very frustrating to have nonsense smeared all over a thread.
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        With no disrespect, I see it again in this reply. It's the need for rationality or else which is what I'm talking about. I see this attitude as a type of violence against alternative views, ideas and the imagination itself.
- IshKebab 3y ago
  His point is that it obviously isn't "no surprises here".
voisin 3y ago
Via Entrainment? [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_entrainment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_entrainment
dundarious 3y ago
I didn’t see any detailed discussion about what they really mean by brain waves, or what information is contained within what they measure as brain waves. I assume they don’t believe brain waves encode cognition in a meaningful/complete way. It seems more like comparing the engine noises of two cars running at the same speed. Why not expect similarities/synchronization when human cognition is powered by the same brain/engine design.
- 2-718-281-828 3y ago
  but those two engines aren't synchronizing. they just show similar but randomly time-shifted oscillations and vibrations.

and how does the coupling work?

ajuc 3y ago

Through our senses?

2-718-281-828 3y ago
my question was to the parent. my point is that pretending like this is a trivial phenomenon is just naive. not sure what your reply is even supposed to mean or convey, frankly speaking.
- ajuc 3y ago
  > > how does the coupling work? > through our senses I think it's pretty obvious what I meant? person A person A person B person B brain waves -> body -> senses -> brain waves <- senses <- body <-
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    and what is this adding to the question of how this works or that it works? nothing. your suggestion is as speculative as it is generic.
    - wfme 3y ago
      Being insufferable is not required to get your point across. We all spend a fair bit of time discussing things without certainty. Immediately shooting those bits and pieces down only looks to end the discussion.
      - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
        the post i initially replied to is what aims at ending the discussion by pretending it's not a big deal if this is actually the case.
      - IshKebab 3y ago
        He's not being insufferable; he's being sane.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  I see this type of comment and attitude way more often than I think is healthy, at least on HN. I think it's intellectual anxiety and or toxic masculinity.
  - 2-718-281-828 3y ago
    maybe because that subject has something esoteric about it which provokes reflexive disregard in some people.
  - 0xr0kk3r 3y ago
    It’s nothing of the sort. It’s the kind of reply you’d get if you tried to answer a exam question with nonsense words that doesn’t advance the conversation, at least intellectually. Your claim of toxic masculinity is absurd. People want to talk rationally and it can be very frustrating to have nonsense smeared all over a thread.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      With no disrespect, I see it again in this reply. It's the need for rationality or else which is what I'm talking about. I see this attitude as a type of violence against alternative views, ideas and the imagination itself.
IshKebab 3y ago
His point is that it obviously isn't "no surprises here".

voisin 3y ago

Via Entrainment? [0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_entrainment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_entrainment

dundarious 3y ago

I didn’t see any detailed discussion about what they really mean by brain waves, or what information is contained within what they measure as brain waves. I assume they don’t believe brain waves encode cognition in a meaningful/complete way. It seems more like comparing the engine noises of two cars running at the same speed. Why not expect similarities/synchronization when human cognition is powered by the same brain/engine design.

2-718-281-828 3y ago
but those two engines aren't synchronizing. they just show similar but randomly time-shifted oscillations and vibrations.