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In what sense has he "gone off the deep end"? Why was he once a hero of yours but no longer?

by ctrlp 3y ago

Zetice 3y ago
1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35991322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35991322 2) His general admiration of Elon Musk and positive opinion of a man who flagrantly and regularly violates the very societal norms that have provided him with the opportunities he built his life around.[0] 3) His inability to navigate Facebook/Meta to effect the change he felt was necessary [1] 4) "My core thesis is that the federal government delivers very poor value for the resources it consumes, and that society as a whole would be better off with a government that was less ambitious." (I should have known about this but didn't until relatively recently) [2] 5) The comment he made as the topic of this submission; he's completely out of touch with reality for anyone who isn't him, but doesn't seem to care at all or even really understand what other people might want. John Carmack's way of thinking is useful for people who want to directly create things themselves, and who don't trust or can't figure out how to motivate or incentivize people to amplify their work. When I was like that, John Carmack was my hero. Now I realize that to be the most effective version of myself, I need to have relationships with others who make me even better than I could possibly be alone. For that, John Carmack is not a good person to look up to, as he doesn't seem to be capable of growing his reach beyond himself. So he's not my hero, he's someone I look at and now see all of the flaws that may have already been there, but weren't relevant for the time I valued him as an inspiration. [0] https://mleverything.substack.com/p/elon-musk-john-carmack-and-gatekeeping https://mleverything.substack.com/p/elon-musk-john-carmack-a... [1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/12/john-carmack-leaves-meta-after-a-decade-fighting-to-make-vr-a-reality/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/12/john-carmack-leaves-m... [2] https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1895320834035758&id=100006735798590 https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1895320834...
- VirusNewbie 3y ago
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  - Zetice 3y ago
    Obviously; I was asked why I don't consider him a hero any longer. That will, by definition, reveal more about me...
- _dain_ 3y ago
  how is #4 even remotely controversial?
  - MisterBastahrd 3y ago
    Because the government has restrictions placed on it by the people that private sources of welfare do not. Want to have something to eat? Listen to us proselytize our religion to you for the next hour. Oh, and by the way, our religion requires you to give 10% of what you earn to us.
  - Zetice 3y ago
    …he says on federally funded infrastructure.
- nancyhn 3y ago
  He knows Elon personally. You know him from media narratives and too online envious activists that desperately want a villain. Spaceman bad. He makes us look like slackers! We want collapse and revolution, he wants to pull civilization into an era of sustainable energy and reusable rockets and maximized freedom. I'll defer to Carmack's personal experience on this one.
  - Aeolun 3y ago
    Yeah no. I’ve read his tweets. Even if he has ambitious goals Elon’s an asshole at times.
  - c-hendricks 3y ago
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  - Zetice 3y ago
    Sorry but why do you think I'm trying to convince you of anything at all? I was asked why I no longer consider Carmack a hero, and I gave my reasons. I don't really care if you believe me or not.
brigadier132 3y ago
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In what sense has he "gone off the deep end"? Why was he once a hero of yours but no longer?

by ctrlp 3y ago

In what sense has he "gone off the deep end"? Why was he once a hero of yours but no longer?

1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35991322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35991322 2) His general admiration of Elon Musk and positive opinion of a man who flagrantly and regularly violates the very societal norms that have provided him with the opportunities he built his life around.[0] 3) His inability to navigate Facebook/Meta to effect the change he felt was necessary [1] 4) "My core thesis is that the federal government delivers very poor value for the resources it consumes, and that society as a whole would be better off with a government that was less ambitious." (I should have known about this but didn't until relatively recently) [2] 5) The comment he made as the topic of this submission; he's completely out of touch with reality for anyone who isn't him, but doesn't seem to care at all or even really understand what other people might want. John Carmack's way of thinking is useful for people who want to directly create things themselves, and who don't trust or can't figure out how to motivate or incentivize people to amplify their work. When I was like that, John Carmack was my hero. Now I realize that to be the most effective version of myself, I need to have relationships with others who make me even better than I could possibly be alone. For that, John Carmack is not a good person to look up to, as he doesn't seem to be capable of growing his reach beyond himself. So he's not my hero, he's someone I look at and now see all of the flaws that may have already been there, but weren't relevant for the time I valued him as an inspiration. [0] https://mleverything.substack.com/p/elon-musk-john-carmack-and-gatekeeping https://mleverything.substack.com/p/elon-musk-john-carmack-a... [1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/12/john-carmack-leaves-meta-after-a-decade-fighting-to-make-vr-a-reality/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/12/john-carmack-leaves-m... [2] https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1895320834035758&id=100006735798590 https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1895320834...

VirusNewbie 3y ago
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- Zetice 3y ago
  Obviously; I was asked why I don't consider him a hero any longer. That will, by definition, reveal more about me...
_dain_ 3y ago
how is #4 even remotely controversial?
- MisterBastahrd 3y ago
  Because the government has restrictions placed on it by the people that private sources of welfare do not. Want to have something to eat? Listen to us proselytize our religion to you for the next hour. Oh, and by the way, our religion requires you to give 10% of what you earn to us.
- Zetice 3y ago
  …he says on federally funded infrastructure.
nancyhn 3y ago
He knows Elon personally. You know him from media narratives and too online envious activists that desperately want a villain. Spaceman bad. He makes us look like slackers! We want collapse and revolution, he wants to pull civilization into an era of sustainable energy and reusable rockets and maximized freedom. I'll defer to Carmack's personal experience on this one.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  Yeah no. I’ve read his tweets. Even if he has ambitious goals Elon’s an asshole at times.
- c-hendricks 3y ago
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- Zetice 3y ago
  Sorry but why do you think I'm trying to convince you of anything at all? I was asked why I no longer consider Carmack a hero, and I gave my reasons. I don't really care if you believe me or not.

brigadier132 3y ago

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