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Another day and another nail in another awesome online community that has terrible leadership. Where will the communities move to? What new areas of the Interne

• i_like_apis 3y ago
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  • no1groyp 3y ago
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    • giraffe_lady 3y ago
      If the current unpaid mods are in it for the wrong reasons then the new unpaid scab mods they find to replace them will definitely be in it for the wrong reasons.
      • no1groyp 3y ago
        C’est la vie
  • hluska 3y ago
    Neckbeards? You sound pleasant.
  • IntelMiner 3y ago
    The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run reddit with their free labor The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who developed 3rd party moderation tools because Reddit refused to The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run subreddits without pay The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones saying that disabled users can't access the site anymore because of these changes Reddit's entire existence is built on user submission of content and curation of that content as unpaid labor by users and mods
    • none_to_remain 3y ago
      Mods are cops, not labor
  • phpisthebest 3y ago
    Hey TIL I am a "whining idiot" because I do use a 3rd app, refuse to use the official reddit mobile app, and see this API access as a prelude to killing off old.reddit as well, which is the only usable web based UI, the new UI is trash. So if old.reddit goes, and 3rd party apps go, I have no interest in suing reddit. I guess that means I am a whining idiot //for the record I am not a mod anywhere on reddit at all
    • i_like_apis 3y ago
      Maybe it’s too harsh that I used the term “whining idiots”, but if you’re going to make a retort you shouldn’t play into “whining” by being sarcastic. Sarcasm doesn’t win anyone over ever.
      • phpisthebest 3y ago
        I am not trying to win you over... Calling people idiots that do not share you opinions on things does not win anyone over either, and gets you sarcasm in response.
  • jmclnx 3y ago
    "neckbeards" ? Really, do you know what one is :) A real "neckbeard" would not be caught dead doing anything in a GUI on a tiny Cell Phone. neckbeards use USENET, which seems to be what REDDIT cloned years ago by putting lipstick on a pig.
  • alexander-wilms 3y ago
    You moron sound like a junkie.
  • jarfil 3y ago
    Reddit is failing right now. Popular communities already had a lot of people who wouldn't engage in positive discourse, only offset by those massively downvoting and reporting the "noise" comments. Now that they're the only ones left, all discourse is disappearing, getting replaced by cheap quips and memes.
    • i_like_apis 3y ago
      Seems fine to me. I’m still on it. It’s still active, I still see content. So some community is dark? Who cares. If i wasn’t subbed to it I don’t really care.
• shivy 3y ago
  https://kbin.social https://kbin.social is a great alternative from what I can see. https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving, as is https://kbin.social/m/programming https://kbin.social/m/programming
  • simlevesque 3y ago
    > https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving There were 2 posts in the last 24 hours. It's not thriving by any measure.
    • s-zeng 3y ago
      Collectively, Lemmy and kbin instances (which federate with each other) just reached over 125k users or so. I've really enjoyed my time there so far.
      • stOneskull 3y ago
        does federate with each other mean you have one account and can log in into lemmy and kbin with that one account? or is it you can use lemmy with a kbin account and vice versa?
        • BaseballPhysics 3y ago
          You log in to your home instance (kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which) and you can follow and participate in communities hosted on other servers, which can be kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which, because they support a common protocol (ActivityPub). In fact, you can even interact with communities hosted on a Lemmy instance from a Mastodon instance, or Misskey. Heck, probably Pixelfed, though I haven't checked. Such is the beauty of the fediverse and protocols over platforms.
      • BoxOfRain 3y ago
        I think we need to start referring to Lemmy, Kbin, and presumably the dozen or so other 'ActivityPub with a Reddit-like interface' projects which will inevitably pop up collectively because while they compete the dynamics of that competition are in theory quite different to what you'd expect with centralised platforms as I can interact with communities on Kbin just as well from my 'home' Lemmy instance. I quite like the term 'Threadiverse' that's been going around lately.
• brucethemoose2 3y ago
  Discord, where everything will be siloed off and then enshittified again :(
  • bmhin 3y ago
    That is my prediction as well. It's unfortunate as we'll enter the unindexed web where all that helpful content you can find by appending "reddit" onto any search will no longer be getting produced. All of it hidden in discords, out of sight. Who knows, maybe there will be an easy way to get stuff published out to the proper web. Things like community FAQs or guides that would be broadly of use. I think the loss of the conversations about minutiae will just be a fact though if that migration happens.
    • brucethemoose2 3y ago
      Well there already are great ways, but it doesn't matter if the critical mass is in Discord.
    • diego_sandoval 3y ago
      The content being out of sight also makes discord communities harder to grow. I bet that a considerable fraction of Reddit users became users by googling something and finding an interesting Reddit discussion about the topic in the first results of Google.
    • bee_rider 3y ago
      I already use Discord and I cannot for the life of me understand how people use it as a Reddit replacement. It is totally impossible to explore.
    • George83728 3y ago
      Discord is "where information goes to die", so for that reason I think there's relatively little risk of lock-in from discord. The history there might as well not exist, so there's less reason to stick around instead of jumping to a new platform when discord is inevitably enshittened. I do wish discord were federated. That's my main gripe with discord, it's not federated and I can't bring my own client like I could on IRC. Oh well, with luck the enshittification will happen soon to put people into the mood for trying something new. Advocating for something like Matrix to discord users now is hopeless, just pissing into the wind. I've tried it, but nobody cares about problems they might have with discord in the future when it's working fine today.
• jpcfl 3y ago
  This reminds me of the Great Digg Migration. If there was ever a time to promote Mastadon, it's now.
  • dom96 3y ago
    Mastodon is more of a Twitter replacement, no?
    • jarfil 3y ago
      Indeed. It can however interact with Lemmy and kbin, which are direct Reddit replacements.
      • tomstockmail 3y ago
        All three use federated groups: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/groups-implementation/591 https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/groups-implementation/... There are groups on Mastodon that you can join and follow.
    • jpcfl 3y ago
      I'm not overly familiar with Mastodon (hence the typo in my comment), but my understanding is that it's a place to browse, share, and discuss content. The UI does appear to be more like Twitter.
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  • floren 3y ago
    > If there was ever a time to promote Mastadon, it's now. make sure you spell it correctly if you do, though
  • chimeracoder 3y ago
    > If there was ever a time to promote Mastadon, it's now. Neither Mastodon nor ActivityPup are a real replacement for the use case of Reddit. They serve very different purposes.
• throwaway1777 3y ago
  Not sure I follow why they should move.
  • than3 3y ago
    They are likely planning on eliminating external apps from using their API. Upon doing that, it no longer becomes feasible to delete your content. They get to keep it forever since they make it so hard to go post by post and delete it. You also won't have any new features that you actually want, because they haven't listened from the get go and have never been responsive because you are the product not the client.
    • throwaway1777 3y ago
      There aren’t really any features that I want, and I any content I might want deleted comes from throwaway accounts.
• sideproject 3y ago
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• dweymouth 3y ago
  https://squabbles.io https://squabbles.io is the best alternative I've seen. The Fediverse is a cool idea in theory but I think at this point in time it's not ready for primetime. It's too complicated for casual users to figure out, plus federation invites drama all of its own - e.g. Beehaw, a major Lemmy instance, has defederated with lemmy.world
  • irrational 3y ago
    Uh... I'm just went there and the first thing I see is "Welcome all sinners! This is a place to talk about your sins in a braggadocious way. Repent if you feel like you have to but no judgment shall be made here about the crazy shit you've done." What the hell? So, it is basically dropping me into the equivalent of one of Reddit's more trashier subreddits, but on the front page?
    • BHSPitMonkey 3y ago
      The homepage shows activity from basically the whole site, so kind of. With an account you get to choose which topics (i.e. subreddit equivalents) get included on /home.
  • jconnop 3y ago
    The best part of reddit, for me, was that it focused primarily on the content, which had to be able to stand largely on its own. Usernames were attached to content, but they were secondary. Other social media platforms are largely about the individual, the personality. The content, while present, seems to be secondary. Influencers run amok and are an advertisers wet dream. Squabbles, self-admittedly [0], tries to combine these approaches. When I look at their home page, as well as a few communities, the only thing that really stands out on each post is the "title bar" with someone's name and a follow link. There's no quick way to see what the content is about (unless it's an image), without actually diving into the meat of the content. I can't make a quick judgement call of whether I want to read the content or not, unless I base it on the person's name. For some, that may be great. For me, it misses the mark and falls too far on the Twitter side of the hybrid approach. If people find it a useful format, then I hope the site thrives. But I don't think it's the right fit for the niche that made reddit great. [0] - https://squabbles.io/about https://squabbles.io/about
• mc32 3y ago
  If they replace the mods with sympathetic mods, then maybe they can weather the protests. Question 1 is can they find cooperative mods who will not betray them. Question 2 is will they steer the community in the same way as the previous mods? Mods, for better or for worse, dictate the culture of a community.
  • jarfil 3y ago
    Q1) Sure, why not. Plenty of power tripping people out there wishing for a turn at the banhammer. Q2) No. The communities are already failing just because the exodus of power users is causing a lack of self-moderation via up/down votes. Add to that random tyrants who haven't built the community, and there is no way for them to survive.
• fernly 3y ago
  Lemmy.world is doing pretty well off "Rexxitors".
• dsir 3y ago
  I've been working on a platform with a bit of a different take on the online community space. It's sort of a Reddit/Discord/Patreon hybrid. We've built a place to monetarily incentivize ownership over the communities created on the platform. It feels like the people curating the communities should be rewarded for the work that they do. Here's an example community: https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending
  • bee_rider 3y ago
    A couple work-in-progress sites have been posted here that seem, like yours, to be aiming for a business model that isn’t 100% ad funded. I think it is really cool that people are trying new businesses models, ad driven social media has all sorts of awful incentives, hopefully one of you folks can win the next round.
    • dsir 3y ago
      Appreciate the feedback! Is there anything specific you'd like to see added to whatever platforms win out?
• holler 3y ago
  I was originally inspired by Reddit & Slack to build https://sqwok.im https://sqwok.im, where every post has a built-in chat room instead of threaded comments. The real driver was in talking about current events such as this one, where refreshing the page became burdensome.
• barbariangrunge 3y ago
  I think this is by far the most important issue. Reddit killed online forums en masse. Where else can people go? There needs to be a viable alternative. Great startup opportunity btw, but hopefully whatever the new platform is will be foss and federated, ideally like email so you can keep in touch after the platform dies I heard some people suggest rss based tech as the glue to bind people together