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This is my nightmare, a scrollbars loaded with bloatware

Sakos 3y ago
Like everything else, it should be configurable. SublimeText provides a version that shows a minified view of the document I have open. That's incredibly useful. If you don't need/want that, you can change it to a standard scrollbar. I'm not sure why or when we collectively decided the best solution for everybody is some mediocre middleground that can't be adjusted to your needs.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
  Much like how I'm not sure when we decided decades of widely ccepted and intuitive access to those same functions is a "mediocre middle ground". If overloading scrollbars with bloat was a good idea, someone would have done it already.
  - Sakos 3y ago
    > when we decided decades of widely ccepted and intuitive access to those same functions is a "mediocre middle ground". Nah, the software world is moving away from providing options and configurability and has been for years. I have nothing against the standard scrollbar. I have everything against people like you who think it's the optimal solution for everybody, that a single solution could ever cover all needs, and we should never have any choice in it. > If overloading scrollbars with bloat No, adding useful features that can be enabled/disabled by preference. Apparently that's a bad thing to you. But thanks for pushing your short-sightedness as if it's the better solution.
    - KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
      > Nah, the software world is moving away from providing options and configurability and has been for years. I have nothing against the standard scrollbar. I have everything against people like you who think it's the optimal solution for everybody, that a single solution could ever cover all needs, and we should never have any choice in it. It's a good job I didn't say that then: I don't want it first party. If you want to _configure_ some extension or application to provide it, more power to you, but don't conflate my argument with something that I didn't say. > No, adding useful features that can be enabled/disabled by preference. Apparently that's a bad thing to you. But thanks for pushing your short-sightedness as if it's the better solution. Enabled by preference is fine for the most common use pattern, which is the current status quo. OSes already provide this. You've stretched yourself to put a lot of words in my mouth. Go back and read what I said again, it will help you to avoid this level of misbehavior in the future.

Like everything else, it should be configurable. SublimeText provides a version that shows a minified view of the document I have open. That's incredibly useful. If you don't need/want that, you can change it to a standard scrollbar. I'm not sure why or when we collectively decided the best solution for everybody is some mediocre middleground that can't be adjusted to your needs.

KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
Much like how I'm not sure when we decided decades of widely ccepted and intuitive access to those same functions is a "mediocre middle ground". If overloading scrollbars with bloat was a good idea, someone would have done it already.
- Sakos 3y ago
  > when we decided decades of widely ccepted and intuitive access to those same functions is a "mediocre middle ground". Nah, the software world is moving away from providing options and configurability and has been for years. I have nothing against the standard scrollbar. I have everything against people like you who think it's the optimal solution for everybody, that a single solution could ever cover all needs, and we should never have any choice in it. > If overloading scrollbars with bloat No, adding useful features that can be enabled/disabled by preference. Apparently that's a bad thing to you. But thanks for pushing your short-sightedness as if it's the better solution.
  - KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
    > Nah, the software world is moving away from providing options and configurability and has been for years. I have nothing against the standard scrollbar. I have everything against people like you who think it's the optimal solution for everybody, that a single solution could ever cover all needs, and we should never have any choice in it. It's a good job I didn't say that then: I don't want it first party. If you want to _configure_ some extension or application to provide it, more power to you, but don't conflate my argument with something that I didn't say. > No, adding useful features that can be enabled/disabled by preference. Apparently that's a bad thing to you. But thanks for pushing your short-sightedness as if it's the better solution. Enabled by preference is fine for the most common use pattern, which is the current status quo. OSes already provide this. You've stretched yourself to put a lot of words in my mouth. Go back and read what I said again, it will help you to avoid this level of misbehavior in the future.