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I don't follow. This code is not C or C++, so it's not actually from Quake. So what's with "this is how this was coded" and "here are the bugs, but it's only m

by eps 3y ago

I don't follow. This code is not C or C++, so it's not actually from Quake. So what's with "this is how this was coded" and "here are the bugs, but it's only my guess"? The code is avaialble, why guess at all?

mewse-hn 3y ago
It's QuakeC - quake's proprietary scripting language that compiled down to a file called progs.dat
- nottorp 3y ago
  I remember Carmack announcing that the scripting language for Quake will be "interpreted ANSI C". Never checked how standard he made it though. That was back when he posted dev updates in his .plan file.
  - vkazanov 3y ago
    QuakeC looks like C on the surface but is a much, much simpler language. Modern dialects are quite a bit more advanced (while still targeting the same vm).
poglet 3y ago
He mentioned QuakeC. Maybe this part of the game was coded in that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuakeC https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuakeC
- vkazanov 3y ago
  Almost all of Q1 gameplay is in quakec, which is a a simple c-like language targeting a little VM. Eventually they've opersourced all of the code making the community possible. I recently started playing Q1 again and it's amazing: the community still supports a number of derivative engines, as well as numerous amazing mods and maps. Arcane Dimensions are insane!
kubb 3y ago
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kipi 3y ago
Hello, video creator here. This is indeed the actual code, and it is written in QuakeC, a language created specifically for the game logic in Quake. The part I'm not sure about is why the creators wanted to add in extra side beams at all.
- simias 3y ago
  I think your guess seems plausible, although maybe it was simply an effort to widen the beam to better match the graphics? The lightning effect is rather wide and it may have been surprising for the player if the hitbox ended up too narrow. I haven't played Quake in the better part of 20 years so I can't comment from first hand experience, but judging by your top-down view at around 41 seconds, the single beam visually seems to intersect with a bunch of enemies while not dealing any damage (probably as a combination of narrow hitboxes on both the beam and the enemies).
- squeek502 3y ago
  I wrote a breakdown of a different Quake engine quirk (rampsliding) that might be a fun topic for a video if you're looking for new topics: https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/rampsliding-quake-engine-quirk/ https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/rampsliding-quake-engine-qui...
- somedude895 3y ago
  Probably just to make the gun more powerful, so you get some area of effect damage and not just hit the target right under your crosshair.
- 2c2c2c 3y ago
  in the era of arrow keys and ball mice, lg probably felt like trash. who knew it would end up so iconically broken :-)
- eps 3y ago
  Oh, didn't know about QuakeC. Shame on me. So both the "normalize" and the improper swap are the part of the original source?

by eps 3y ago

mewse-hn 3y ago

It's QuakeC - quake's proprietary scripting language that compiled down to a file called progs.dat

nottorp 3y ago
I remember Carmack announcing that the scripting language for Quake will be "interpreted ANSI C". Never checked how standard he made it though. That was back when he posted dev updates in his .plan file.
- vkazanov 3y ago
  QuakeC looks like C on the surface but is a much, much simpler language. Modern dialects are quite a bit more advanced (while still targeting the same vm).

poglet 3y ago

He mentioned QuakeC. Maybe this part of the game was coded in that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuakeC https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuakeC

vkazanov 3y ago
Almost all of Q1 gameplay is in quakec, which is a a simple c-like language targeting a little VM. Eventually they've opersourced all of the code making the community possible. I recently started playing Q1 again and it's amazing: the community still supports a number of derivative engines, as well as numerous amazing mods and maps. Arcane Dimensions are insane!

kubb 3y ago

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kipi 3y ago

Hello, video creator here. This is indeed the actual code, and it is written in QuakeC, a language created specifically for the game logic in Quake. The part I'm not sure about is why the creators wanted to add in extra side beams at all.

simias 3y ago
I think your guess seems plausible, although maybe it was simply an effort to widen the beam to better match the graphics? The lightning effect is rather wide and it may have been surprising for the player if the hitbox ended up too narrow. I haven't played Quake in the better part of 20 years so I can't comment from first hand experience, but judging by your top-down view at around 41 seconds, the single beam visually seems to intersect with a bunch of enemies while not dealing any damage (probably as a combination of narrow hitboxes on both the beam and the enemies).
squeek502 3y ago
I wrote a breakdown of a different Quake engine quirk (rampsliding) that might be a fun topic for a video if you're looking for new topics: https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/rampsliding-quake-engine-quirk/ https://www.ryanliptak.com/blog/rampsliding-quake-engine-qui...
somedude895 3y ago
Probably just to make the gun more powerful, so you get some area of effect damage and not just hit the target right under your crosshair.
2c2c2c 3y ago
in the era of arrow keys and ball mice, lg probably felt like trash. who knew it would end up so iconically broken :-)
eps 3y ago
Oh, didn't know about QuakeC. Shame on me. So both the "normalize" and the improper swap are the part of the original source?