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Doesn’t this illuminate an opportunity for Reddit? Close the doors and invest in Reddit search monetized with ad placement like google has?

by mentos 3y ago

dylan604 3y ago
the realistic opp for Reddit is to charge Google access to the API which would more than cover all of the other API users. If Googs can afford to pay Apple and others to have their search be the default, they can afford to pay to crawl Reddit too
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  Reddit claims that is their goal, they're just doing it terribly making it hard to trust that it's actually their goal.
  - dplgk 3y ago
    Source?
    - boomboomsubban 3y ago
      Like everything they've said about the change is "we can't deal with tech mega companies making billions off of our api." A quick search gave https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/14/reddit-moderators-vow-to-continue-blackout-in-api-access-fees-row https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/14/reddit-mo...
adventured 3y ago
I think it does. They're busy self-sabotating at the moment. They have never properly figured out search though, that aspect of Reddit has been mediocre since the beginning. There is reason to be skeptical that they could figure it out now, given their other product/feature development; they appear incapable of doing it effectively.
tester457 3y ago
Somehow after all these years reddit never got their search to work. You can paste a comment word for word in the search and reddit won't find it. They're dependent on google. Also if they somehow figure out search to work, it will be ruined because of users gaming the search system with SEO. > However, the argument that Reddit can build a better search than Google is a flawed argument. And that flaw is the same flaw that makes Google results bad. And that flaw is money. [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30369402 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30369402
- mentos 3y ago
  What about Reddit search quietly powered by ChatGPT4 I’m day dreaming about Reddit telling OpenAI to foot the search bill or they’ll make the case that OpenAI needs to remove all of Reddit from its training?
- fnord77 3y ago
  > Somehow after all these years reddit never got their search to work. I thought this was on purpose
Keyframe 3y ago
Or an opportunity for google to buy reddit? Seems google knows how to monetize and knows how to search. They do already have one huge successful online community (youtube). Yeah, I don't have much faith in google management and buyouts either, but maybe..?

Doesn’t this illuminate an opportunity for Reddit? Close the doors and invest in Reddit search monetized with ad placement like google has?

by mentos 3y ago

Doesn’t this illuminate an opportunity for Reddit? Close the doors and invest in Reddit search monetized with ad placement like google has?

dylan604 3y ago

the realistic opp for Reddit is to charge Google access to the API which would more than cover all of the other API users. If Googs can afford to pay Apple and others to have their search be the default, they can afford to pay to crawl Reddit too

boomboomsubban 3y ago
Reddit claims that is their goal, they're just doing it terribly making it hard to trust that it's actually their goal.
- dplgk 3y ago
  Source?
  - boomboomsubban 3y ago
    Like everything they've said about the change is "we can't deal with tech mega companies making billions off of our api." A quick search gave https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/14/reddit-moderators-vow-to-continue-blackout-in-api-access-fees-row https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/14/reddit-mo...

adventured 3y ago

I think it does. They're busy self-sabotating at the moment. They have never properly figured out search though, that aspect of Reddit has been mediocre since the beginning. There is reason to be skeptical that they could figure it out now, given their other product/feature development; they appear incapable of doing it effectively.

tester457 3y ago

Somehow after all these years reddit never got their search to work. You can paste a comment word for word in the search and reddit won't find it. They're dependent on google. Also if they somehow figure out search to work, it will be ruined because of users gaming the search system with SEO. > However, the argument that Reddit can build a better search than Google is a flawed argument. And that flaw is the same flaw that makes Google results bad. And that flaw is money. [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30369402 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30369402

mentos 3y ago
What about Reddit search quietly powered by ChatGPT4 I’m day dreaming about Reddit telling OpenAI to foot the search bill or they’ll make the case that OpenAI needs to remove all of Reddit from its training?
fnord77 3y ago
> Somehow after all these years reddit never got their search to work. I thought this was on purpose

Keyframe 3y ago

Or an opportunity for google to buy reddit? Seems google knows how to monetize and knows how to search. They do already have one huge successful online community (youtube). Yeah, I don't have much faith in google management and buyouts either, but maybe..?