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It likely felt safer than walking but there is a 0% chance that a 1.5 block walk through San Francisco was truly more dangerous than a 1.5 block car ride. It’s
by paulcole 3y ago
It likely felt safer than walking but there is a 0% chance that a 1.5 block walk through San Francisco was truly more dangerous than a 1.5 block car ride. It’s much more likely that neither was dangerous at all.
- jojobas 3y agoFeeling of danger is subjective, I can easily imagine a car ride along shit-infested sidewalks and deranged homeless people feels less dangerous (and icky) than walking.
- zoky 3y agoI mean, okay, but don't you think there's generally a correlation between “feeling of danger” and “actual danger”?
- jojobas 3y agoI'm not arguing with you, I'm arguing with other people here who apparently have no problem walking on shit, syringes and whatever else as long as loitering delinquents don't "look at them crossways".
- zoky 3y agoAh, gotcha, I see what you’re saying. I guess I’d just say that you seem to be implying that the human instinct for perception of danger is not really tied to actual danger. And while one could argue that in the modern day that may be true, I think there’s something to be said for the fact that our instinctual ability to perceive even potential danger has gotten us this far.
- verelo 3y agoI remember spending entire days walking the city. I walked from a VC meeting to a lunch with a friend, it took over an hour. Having said that, a lot has changed since 2009
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- HlessClaudesman 3y agoGetting accosted several homeless people in a short stretch feels unsafe, especially to the sort of out of towner who is not inured to it, in a way that driving does not. Both have a very low risk per unit of travel, but in the moment we have no way of qualitatively measuring that risk. I stayed in SF for a few nights, it was pretty shocking to me the amount of homeless people (euphemism creep: temporarily unhoused) and the various tactics they employed to try and get money. One lady was just screaming at people in a fast food restaurant, I guess she was hoping to get paid in order to go away. This was 20 years ago and I hear the situation has only gotten worse since. California treating homeless people like sacred cows is eventually going to wreck their inner cities for everyone.
- freediverx 3y agoMaybe instead of complaining about homeless people we should complain about how capitalism creates homelessness.
- zoky 3y agoMaybe instead of pretending homelessness is a strictly capitalist problem we should look at whether it’s been a problem elsewhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotjebi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotjebi
- jojobas 3y agoYou don't have a homelessness problem if you send the homeless to labour camps.
- dismantlethesun 3y agoWhy is capitalism only creating homeless encampments in San Fran and not generally in the US? Maybe it’s not capitalism at fault here but a government that is unwilling or unable to supply standard social safety nets like homeless shelters and addiction therapy.
- zoky 3y agoWell, keep in mind that he was working somewhat odd hours. He would often be leaving work at around 23:00 or later. There are definitely parts of San Francisco where you do not want to be walking even a single block through that late.