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> Although I do foresee Reddit “super mods” forcibly removing the blackout through their backend, removing mod status from the “rebels” and inserting their own
by rurp 3y ago
> Although I do foresee Reddit “super mods” forcibly removing the blackout through their backend, removing mod status from the “rebels” and inserting their own friendly mods until they can find replacements.
I agree this is likely, which will extend the negative reactions further and alienate even more users. Unless Reddit execs do a 180 in the very near future I think the platform will be forever crippled.
Large networks rarely die overnight and whatever happens they will still have a number of users for the foreseeable future, but the steady fade to irrelevance will begin in earnest.
Power users drive a huge amount of content and moderation, and they are especially livid right now for good reason.
- ssl232 3y agoWhere will reddit get enough mods to police the hundreds (thousands?) of subreddits each with tens of thousands of members that are rebelling against the API changes? Blocking/firing the existing mods would make the site descend into chaos.
- a2tech 3y ago[flagged]
- nomel 3y agoI recently learned this is actually something that college aged people do for extra cash.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoWell they’ve already started doing it
- WheatMillington 3y agoThey are really only going to care about the top tier subs, the rest will be replaced by the community. So really we're only taking 20-100 subreddits, depending on definitions.
- __loam 3y ago8000 subs went dark.
- WheatMillington 3y ago[flagged]
- __loam 3y agoWow, very condescending!
- fineIllregister 3y agoDepends on what you consider "top tier". 26 subs with over 20 million subscribers are private or restricted. 86 subs with over 5 million subscribers. I was too lazy to count, but there's several dozen more over 1 million subscribers and a ton over half a million. I'm skeptical they can afford to lose all those subs or replace their mods. source: https://reddark.untone.uk/ https://reddark.untone.uk/
- blarghyblarg 3y agoI don't know... I've been on there on and off all day, and it's honestly better today than it has been for a long, long time.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoIt already happened
- Tangurena2 3y agoThere are not enough volunteers to handle the load. Companies depend on free labor to moderate things and will never be able to afford the actual cost of doing business without that free labor. I currently moderate 2 subs (down from 5). I'm looking to offload those 2 without having them get banned for being unmoderated (again).
- rcarr 3y agoYou say this, but it’s only a matter of time until we get AI moderation.
- tyg13 3y agoI can't wait to make a seemingly-innocuous post on some subreddit, only to have that post removed for "failing to meet community guidelines" and receive absolutely zero intelligible response from the AI moderators. To be fair, that's still possible (and sometimes the case) with human moderators, though I find that experience to be exceptionally rare, and the remedy (just don't use that subreddit) easier to perform. At least if the mods of some sub go haywire, users can always create another sub. With widespread use of AI moderation, there'd be nowhere to go to escape.
- jrnichols 3y ago> I can't wait to make a seemingly-innocuous post on some subreddit, only to have that post removed for "failing to meet community guidelines" and receive absolutely zero intelligible response from the AI moderators. THat's how their whole "Appeal" process is now. We had accounts suspended permanently for daring to question the mods at a large subreddit, and they nuked every account that logged in from our home IP. Wife's account, which was innocent, was permanently suspended. Same with housemate behind us that used our WiFi. The appeal process? Within 5 minutes we got a useless and canned message that was along the lines of "After careful review, it was been determined that... blah blah blah." We've since made new accounts, but it was 100+ days later, and all of our reddit usage is way down as a result. My account alone was 8+ years old. Gone, no appeal, nothing. Reports in /r/help were that they used AI to handle appeals. Not sure if it's true, but it feels like it is.
- chaosjevil 3y agoBesides alienating the users even further directly, forcible replacement of the mods with sycophants will also make the subs be ruled by people who don't quite get theie local cultures, don't know what's it's "normal", and that'll be overburdened and outright despised by their userbases, who'll shit the subs even further. It'll be hell.