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The lack of a way to produce a self contained binary is why I switched away from Python for a personal project of mine. However, to address the other part of y

The lack of a way to produce a self contained binary is why I switched away from Python for a personal project of mine. However, to address the other part of your comment, pipx works quite well for installing command line applications.

globular-toast 3y ago
Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? It seems like such an odd requirement. If you really want that it seems in principle easy to compile it all into one script with no imports and put a shebang at the top. What's the point, though? Pyinstaller is pretty good for if you need a standalone installer.
- spicyusername 3y ago
  Self contained binaries are very easy to distribute and use.
- bheadmaster 3y ago
  > Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? Because simple is better than complex. I'd rather download a binary than download a binary + dependencies + set them up + bookkeep for when I want to delete all those files. > Pyinstaller is pretty good for if you need a standalone installer. PyInstaller doesn't work for many edge cases. If you're using a Python package that uses a compiled binary written in another language, good luck on your way down the rabbit hole of PyInstaller config. I personally could not succeed in packaging a uvicorn app, for example.
  - redsaber 3y ago
    > I personally could not succeed in packaging a uvicorn app, for example. I kinda did managed to run a fastapi with uvicorn and pyinstaller. And I did nothing special
    - bheadmaster 3y ago
      > And I did nothing special. I just took the example app from uvicorn.org: # main.py import uvicorn async def app(scope, receive, send): assert scope['type'] == 'http' await send({ 'type': 'http.response.start', 'status': 200, 'headers': [ [b'content-type', b'text/plain'], ], }) await send({ 'type': 'http.response.body', 'body': b'Hello, world!', }) if __name__ == '__main__': uvicorn.run('main:app', port=5000, log_level="info") And ran "pyinstaller --onefile main.py" on it. The resulting binary, when executed, just says: Error loading ASGI app. Could not import module "main". Please share what exactly did you do that made it work. I already assume it's far from "nothing special"...
      - imtringued 3y ago
        My guess is that the main.py file is at the wrong location. Possibly dist/main.py aka dist.main:app.
      - redsaber 3y ago
        #main.py from src.webserver import app import uvicorn if __name__ == '__main__': uvicorn.run( app, host='0.0.0.0', port=8080, ) #webserver from fastapi import FastAPI app = FastAPI() @app.get('/') async def home(): return { "home": True } @app.on_event("startup") async def startup_event(): import webbrowser ip_address = "http://localhost:8080/" webbrowser.open(ip_address) #create a python file for pyinstaller import PyInstaller.__main__ if __name__ == '__main__': name = "test" pyinstaller_list = [ 'main.py', f'--name={name}', '--clean', '--onefile', ] PyInstaller.__main__.run(pyinstaller_list) I remember reading this part 'main:app' where you should import the app instead for pyinstaller.
        bheadmaster 3y ago
        You are right. I think I've misremembered the module name - it was uwsgi, not uvicorn. This is a github issue where I discussed my original issue with PyInstaller devs - the dev explained the situation very well: https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/6362 https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/6362
  - globular-toast 3y ago
    We've had package managers for like, 30 years?
    - bheadmaster 3y ago
      Each and every one of you?
- motogpjimbo 3y ago
  > Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? It seems like such an odd requirement. Because sometimes I just want to write `my_program | your_program` without learning how to install and set up a program in a language I don't personally use, particularly when that language has the worst packaging ecosystem of any mainstream language.

globular-toast 3y ago

Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? It seems like such an odd requirement. If you really want that it seems in principle easy to compile it all into one script with no imports and put a shebang at the top. What's the point, though? Pyinstaller is pretty good for if you need a standalone installer.

spicyusername 3y ago
Self contained binaries are very easy to distribute and use.
bheadmaster 3y ago
> Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? Because simple is better than complex. I'd rather download a binary than download a binary + dependencies + set them up + bookkeep for when I want to delete all those files. > Pyinstaller is pretty good for if you need a standalone installer. PyInstaller doesn't work for many edge cases. If you're using a Python package that uses a compiled binary written in another language, good luck on your way down the rabbit hole of PyInstaller config. I personally could not succeed in packaging a uvicorn app, for example.
- redsaber 3y ago
  > I personally could not succeed in packaging a uvicorn app, for example. I kinda did managed to run a fastapi with uvicorn and pyinstaller. And I did nothing special
  - bheadmaster 3y ago
    > And I did nothing special. I just took the example app from uvicorn.org: # main.py import uvicorn async def app(scope, receive, send): assert scope['type'] == 'http' await send({ 'type': 'http.response.start', 'status': 200, 'headers': [ [b'content-type', b'text/plain'], ], }) await send({ 'type': 'http.response.body', 'body': b'Hello, world!', }) if __name__ == '__main__': uvicorn.run('main:app', port=5000, log_level="info") And ran "pyinstaller --onefile main.py" on it. The resulting binary, when executed, just says: Error loading ASGI app. Could not import module "main". Please share what exactly did you do that made it work. I already assume it's far from "nothing special"...
    - imtringued 3y ago
      My guess is that the main.py file is at the wrong location. Possibly dist/main.py aka dist.main:app.
    - redsaber 3y ago
      #main.py from src.webserver import app import uvicorn if __name__ == '__main__': uvicorn.run( app, host='0.0.0.0', port=8080, ) #webserver from fastapi import FastAPI app = FastAPI() @app.get('/') async def home(): return { "home": True } @app.on_event("startup") async def startup_event(): import webbrowser ip_address = "http://localhost:8080/" webbrowser.open(ip_address) #create a python file for pyinstaller import PyInstaller.__main__ if __name__ == '__main__': name = "test" pyinstaller_list = [ 'main.py', f'--name={name}', '--clean', '--onefile', ] PyInstaller.__main__.run(pyinstaller_list) I remember reading this part 'main:app' where you should import the app instead for pyinstaller.
      - bheadmaster 3y ago
        You are right. I think I've misremembered the module name - it was uwsgi, not uvicorn. This is a github issue where I discussed my original issue with PyInstaller devs - the dev explained the situation very well: https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/6362 https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/6362
- globular-toast 3y ago
  We've had package managers for like, 30 years?
  - bheadmaster 3y ago
    Each and every one of you?
motogpjimbo 3y ago
> Why does it matter if a program is a self-contained binary? It seems like such an odd requirement. Because sometimes I just want to write `my_program | your_program` without learning how to install and set up a program in a language I don't personally use, particularly when that language has the worst packaging ecosystem of any mainstream language.