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Without agreeing or disagreeing with either view, 100% of recovering drug addicts used drugs prior to seeking treatment for a drug addition - it’s not like peop
by hsbauauvhabzb 3y ago
Without agreeing or disagreeing with either view, 100% of recovering drug addicts used drugs prior to seeking treatment for a drug addition - it’s not like people go into a total freeze while using drugs to escape, they may well come out with more problems than when they became addicted, but it’s not as binary as drugs do or don’t help.
- jojobas 3y agoIt might not be a total freeze, but it's pretty binary - opiates and booze never help get out of poverty, homelessness, depression or pretty much anything else.
- hsbauauvhabzb 3y agoYou can’t name a single successful person that was once an addict? I’m not saying it’s a good or productive option, but if compared to certain death, it’s at least recoverable.
- aerio 3y agoBecause of the taboo, it can be hard to find a lot of examples - successful people often choose not to speak up about it. Richard Branson is a pretty successful person by any metric and has been open about smoking weed since even before it was widely legalised
- AniseAbyss 3y ago[dead]
- pjc50 3y agoQuite a lot of successful, famous people have had coke addiction phases. You'd get some surprising results if you did random drug testing in white collar workplaces.
- WeylandYutani 3y agoTrue and then you find out these people were incredibly shitty and destructive but at least they made some nice songs that are now used for car commercials so the universe balanced itself out, right?
- Gud 3y agoMany good people use coke recreationally. Not sure why you jump to the conclusion that they are shitty
- AniseAbyss 3y ago[dead]
- jojobas 3y agoCan you name a single person who was in a bad spot and got out through drinking and doping?
- pizza 3y agoIt's not polite conversation in most circles but they're out there.
- mdekkers 3y ago> It might not be a total freeze, but it's pretty binary - opiates and booze never help get out of poverty, homelessness, depression or pretty much anything else. Your statement is factually incorrect. Opiates are used frequently in clinical settings with significant positive outcomes.
- jojobas 3y agoOpiates are used for pain relief when the pain is either short-term or terminal, and for cough management. There is no other clinical use. I'm surprised I have to spell it out - booze and opiates never helped anyone who was in a bad situation already.
- hsbauauvhabzb 3y agoIsn’t being in enough pain to require opiates the definition of ‘a bad situation’ though?
- ztrww 3y agoOpiates can surely enable people to do things they would have been mostly incapable of doing before. Even alcohol might be very helpful fo some people in certain situations. The issue is the rather poor risk/reward ratio due to dependence and abuse potential.