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Israel is the one shining example of a country with a TFR well above replacement (around 3.0, and stable) despite being economically modern. They have lessons t
by Georgelemental 3y ago
Israel is the one shining example of a country with a TFR well above replacement (around 3.0, and stable) despite being economically modern. They have lessons to teach the rest of us.
- golergka 3y agoIsrael is being slowly overtaken by ultra-orthodox. I really hope other countries don't repeat this, as country becomes less and less democratic as a result.
- debacle 3y agoTeach your kids from a young age that they should have a lot of kids, and then financially incentivize them to get married and have kids? How...patriarchal.
- blitz_skull 3y agoDespite the evident disdain in the last sentence, can you explain how this is inherently negative?
- piva00 3y agoPopulation growth with our current technology has kinda proven that it's not sustainable, even less if each generation has social mobility to increase their wealth since wealth is directly correlated to environmental impact. When our societies are not reliant on fossil fuels, environmental destruction (farmlands, etc.), and other forms of mass pollution we might want to reconsider population growth, as we're right now and for the foreseeable future that's one of the worst things we can do for future generations.
- JasserInicide 3y agoPopulation growth with our current technology has kinda proven that it's not sustainable Then who's going to be the one to tell people that having kids is unsustainable because your ancestors didn't care to implement sustainable energy solutions?
- Georgelemental 3y ago> population growth […] that's one of the worst things we can do for future generations. How is "being born" a bad thing for future generations? I would think that most would prefer existence to nonexistence
- piva00 3y agoYou don't have a choice of being born, the same as you have no saying in the world after you're dead. The unborn would have no preference whatsoever, and the life for those who by no choice of their own were born would be better. Those that don't exist simply don't matter.
- sparrish 3y agoYou say that like it's a bad thing.
- MattGaiser 3y agoIsn't this where religion comes into play? The Haredi have a birthrate of nearly 7 last I read.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoaye. that's what's growing the population of Israel; otherwise the birth rate is fairly unimpressive. the problem is the Haredi don't work or serve in the Army (with some exceptions), so they represent a population boom that's only really providing more bodies, not more citizens.
- api 3y agoThe lesson is that subsidies work. Israel basically subsidizes ultra-orthodox sects that prioritize large families. They also have general policies that subsidize families such as free child care. I'm not making a value judgement ether way, just saying that it's a simple case of subsidizing something and therefore getting more of that thing. If we implemented free preschool, a child tax credit, and reforms to reduce the cost of housing we could also raise our birth rate.
- fomine3 3y agoUltra-orthodox prefer large families but their preference isn't by subsidize. Subsidize helped in Israel because there are already people who prefer large families with less money, but it's not the case in many developed worlds.
- tmaly 3y agomuch of our modern economy is structured on growth. What happens when the larger nations stop growing?