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From https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1667935251547521028 https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1667935251547521028 "I’ve never been more depressed looking at graph

From https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1667935251547521028 https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1667935251547521028 "I’ve never been more depressed looking at graphs. This year has already entered uncharted territory in many key respects, and the upcoming El Niño will only make matters worse. We’re not ready for what’s coming."

defrost 3y ago
"I'm not depressed by the graphs. I'm depressed by the indifference for the best of us, and outright denial by many that will just keep their heads down." https://twitter.com/LeonardLanglois/status/1667966837731016704 https://twitter.com/LeonardLanglois/status/16679668377310167...
- explaininjs 3y ago
  “I’m not depressed because of the data, I’m depressed because other people aren’t depressed” Wish these people could get a grip on themselves. Living in a constant state of depression because you’re scared of the future climate is the definition of putting the cart before the horse.
  - Kbelicius 3y ago
    What is the horse here?
    - rad_gruchalski 3y ago
      I assume their own life. As in their own well being during their time on this planet. Don’t ricochet me with downvotes, I’m simply trying to answer that particular question.
    - explaininjs 3y ago
      Father Time. Cart is Mother Earth of course. We’re so incomprehensibly blessed to be able to experience this momentary oasis of beauty, but people will ignore it all in favor of mentally fast forwarding themselves into a state of imaginative terror. That’s not to say disregard the environment entirely, but rather: cherish every moment you have with it, do what you can to help where you can (mainly: dramatically reduce consumption), and encourage others to do the same.
      - marssaxman 3y ago
        > We’re so incomprehensibly blessed to be able to experience this momentary oasis of beauty, but people will ignore it all in favor of mentally fast forwarding themselves into a state of imaginative terror. Who is ignoring anything? The terror comes from the contrast between one's keen personal awareness of the precious and fragile nature of this "oasis of beauty", and the systematically reckless, violent disregard humanity as a whole shows toward it.
  - tucnak 3y ago
    Yeah this kind of outlook cannot be healthy.
  - crote 3y ago
    No, people are scared about the climate NOW. Over the past few years the daily lives of many hundreds of millions of people has started to become impacted by climate change. Things have noticeably gotten worse. People aren't depressed about something which could potentially happen about some point in the future, people are depressed about something that is actively happening right now - and only getting worse.
    - mcv 3y ago
      The tweet in question isn't so much depressed about what's happening, but about what's not happening: the fact that a lot of people are still not taking this seriously, and nothing is being done to address this.
    - explaininjs 3y ago
      Show me something so terrible now as to overshadow the incomprehensible beauty of our existence on Mother Earth and I’ll show you an anxious/obsessive/depressive neurosis. No one’s going to be around forever, might as well enjoy it while you’re here. Being depressed benefits nobody, least of all the environment.
    - kranke155 3y ago
      Wildfires in Portugal have been out of control for almost a decade. The country has been in a technical drought situation for the past 6-8 years I think. This year there wasn’t enough water so a lot of small gourmet olive oil producers were not able to sell any stock. The fantasy of not being worried only exists in cities I think and it’s totally divorced from what’s happening in food production. Ask any farmer in southern Europe if they’re worried they’ll tell you they were worried 10 years ago.
  - specialist 3y ago
    I'm scared of the climate present, terrified of the climate future. Anything less than panic is irrational. Fortunately, I have David Roberts' Volts podcast talking me off the ledge. He covers many of the efforts to build our fossil fuel free economy. Most are super clever. Cat nip for hackers. Highest recommendation. https://www.volts.wtf https://www.volts.wtf
    - explaininjs 3y ago
      > Anything less than {fear so strong as to prevent reason and logical thinking} is irrational That’s an impressively eloquent caricaturization of the neurosis. Being able to state it so plainly leaves me to wonder if you’re being facetious about the whole thing. > Panic in social psychology is considered infectious since it can spread to a multitude of people and those affected are expected to act irrationally as a consequence. Indeed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic
      - specialist 3y ago
        Just another round in the age old struggle between Empiricists and Rationalists. Today's labels for same are the reality-based community vs concern trolls.

defrost 3y ago

"I'm not depressed by the graphs. I'm depressed by the indifference for the best of us, and outright denial by many that will just keep their heads down." https://twitter.com/LeonardLanglois/status/1667966837731016704 https://twitter.com/LeonardLanglois/status/16679668377310167...

explaininjs 3y ago
“I’m not depressed because of the data, I’m depressed because other people aren’t depressed” Wish these people could get a grip on themselves. Living in a constant state of depression because you’re scared of the future climate is the definition of putting the cart before the horse.
- Kbelicius 3y ago
  What is the horse here?
  - rad_gruchalski 3y ago
    I assume their own life. As in their own well being during their time on this planet. Don’t ricochet me with downvotes, I’m simply trying to answer that particular question.
  - explaininjs 3y ago
    Father Time. Cart is Mother Earth of course. We’re so incomprehensibly blessed to be able to experience this momentary oasis of beauty, but people will ignore it all in favor of mentally fast forwarding themselves into a state of imaginative terror. That’s not to say disregard the environment entirely, but rather: cherish every moment you have with it, do what you can to help where you can (mainly: dramatically reduce consumption), and encourage others to do the same.
    - marssaxman 3y ago
      > We’re so incomprehensibly blessed to be able to experience this momentary oasis of beauty, but people will ignore it all in favor of mentally fast forwarding themselves into a state of imaginative terror. Who is ignoring anything? The terror comes from the contrast between one's keen personal awareness of the precious and fragile nature of this "oasis of beauty", and the systematically reckless, violent disregard humanity as a whole shows toward it.
- tucnak 3y ago
  Yeah this kind of outlook cannot be healthy.
- crote 3y ago
  No, people are scared about the climate NOW. Over the past few years the daily lives of many hundreds of millions of people has started to become impacted by climate change. Things have noticeably gotten worse. People aren't depressed about something which could potentially happen about some point in the future, people are depressed about something that is actively happening right now - and only getting worse.
  - mcv 3y ago
    The tweet in question isn't so much depressed about what's happening, but about what's not happening: the fact that a lot of people are still not taking this seriously, and nothing is being done to address this.
  - explaininjs 3y ago
    Show me something so terrible now as to overshadow the incomprehensible beauty of our existence on Mother Earth and I’ll show you an anxious/obsessive/depressive neurosis. No one’s going to be around forever, might as well enjoy it while you’re here. Being depressed benefits nobody, least of all the environment.
  - kranke155 3y ago
    Wildfires in Portugal have been out of control for almost a decade. The country has been in a technical drought situation for the past 6-8 years I think. This year there wasn’t enough water so a lot of small gourmet olive oil producers were not able to sell any stock. The fantasy of not being worried only exists in cities I think and it’s totally divorced from what’s happening in food production. Ask any farmer in southern Europe if they’re worried they’ll tell you they were worried 10 years ago.
- specialist 3y ago
  I'm scared of the climate present, terrified of the climate future. Anything less than panic is irrational. Fortunately, I have David Roberts' Volts podcast talking me off the ledge. He covers many of the efforts to build our fossil fuel free economy. Most are super clever. Cat nip for hackers. Highest recommendation. https://www.volts.wtf https://www.volts.wtf
  - explaininjs 3y ago
    > Anything less than {fear so strong as to prevent reason and logical thinking} is irrational That’s an impressively eloquent caricaturization of the neurosis. Being able to state it so plainly leaves me to wonder if you’re being facetious about the whole thing. > Panic in social psychology is considered infectious since it can spread to a multitude of people and those affected are expected to act irrationally as a consequence. Indeed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic
    - specialist 3y ago
      Just another round in the age old struggle between Empiricists and Rationalists. Today's labels for same are the reality-based community vs concern trolls.