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It is not the dollars per watt that matters to many users. What matters more than people may realize is battery runtime. The Apple hardware just spanks x86 ha
by ddingus 3y ago
It is not the dollars per watt that matters to many users.
What matters more than people may realize is battery runtime. The Apple hardware just spanks x86 hardware, unless that hardware is fitted with a big battery, and or a secondary one.
I typically run Lenovo hardware, and on my faster machine, I got a very large battery and could get 6 solid hours. And that is at a nice 3Ghz speed too.
My current machine (i5) is far slower than the M1 and that hot running Lenovo. (i7) It has two batteries that can yield 5 to 7 hours.
Those machines are heavier, slower, bigger, and just feel crappy compared to the M1 Air I have been using.
And that thing is crazy good. Battery life is longer, sometimes by a considerable amount. It is great hardware, fast, easy to use, light, you name it.
- pjmlp 3y agoIf we forget about servers.
- threeseed 3y agoWhich we should because no one is using a Mac as a server.
- astrange 3y agoThey should (or equivalent product). ARMv8 processors are much more secure than x86 and will continue to improve in ARMv9.
- 1over137 3y agoPeople used to run Mac OS X servers, but Apple does not care for that market.
- iCodeSometime 3y agoIf we only consider web servers. Mac servers are pretty much required for any kind of CICD for Apple development. Just about any company with an iOS or Mac app will have or rent a Mac server.
- ddingus 3y agoSure. When talking about desktop, personal computing, servers are not really a discussion.
- pjmlp 3y agoIt is when overreacting the extent of Apple achievements in the industry. Most people in 2nd and 3rd tier countries don't have the necessary means to buy those equipments, and additionally they aren't a presence on servers and embedded markets. So in those markets it doesn't matter if M2 Ultra smashes AMD and Intel, no one will ever use one.
- ddingus 3y agoI has never mattered. I do not understand your point.
- antifa 3y agoM1 mini will make a great home server, would be nice to see someone do a comparison with similar products like Intel NUC for a home server of that size. I'm using an old NUC as a home server and the only drawback is that it only has the capacity for 2 harddrives.
- diffeomorphism 3y agoWith 8gb of ram and 256gb of storage? Otherwise it is like $1000. So, yeah that buys you a decent home server, but at that price it is kinda underwhelming considering the limited OS compatibility, ports, size (much larger than a NUC), ...
- GeekyBear 3y agoAlso, consider how much a PC laptop has to throttle performance if you unplug it from the wall.
- ddingus 3y agoYes! That is often significant. Sometimes worse than half performance, or it will suck the battery dry fast enough to seriously increase battery life decay.
- comte7092 3y agoAnd don’t forget cooling! All that extra power draw generates heat.
- andrekandre 3y ago> And don’t forget cooling! All that extra power draw generates heat. which in turn can cause more throttling in a cramped space like a laptop if its not cooled (loudly) enough
- sneak 3y agoTFA is about the M2 Ultra chip - it is not available in any system that is battery powered. They are in the Max Studio and Mac Pro only.