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I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good fo
by tumult 3y ago
I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer.
Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. That’s not true. It’s as true as hiring a musician to make a song for you, given a description. And nobody would say that the person who hired the musician was expressing themself.
- 52-6F-62 3y agoExactly. What happened to automatic the boring things? Instead they seem to be all in on washing out any hope in creativity and pointing people to put all their hope in minting and munging “code”. It’s so myopic and short sighted it hurts my soul. I don’t understand at all. All that money, all that knowledge and talent… and this and stupid headsets strapped to peoples faces is the game? God dammit.
- panosfilianos 3y agoLet's say that ebooks now include metadata for soundtrack generation as you read them. Something like this model generates it real time based on the users reading speed etc. That'd be pretty cool for example.
- tumult 3y agoThat does sound cool, but you don’t need a purely generative AI to do this. Dealing with a reader who jumps around, re-reads paragraphs, flips back a few pages for a moment, etc. in a coherent way seems like the more difficult and interesting problem.
- arrosenberg 3y ago> Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. I'd say it lets me, a non-musician, create generic tracks for other projects that need music, but don't need the Lord of the Rings soundtrack. If you want the insane soundtrack, you still need an artist, as this project demonstrates.
- tumult 3y agoThere’s already an endless supply of free and royalty free music in every style. While an AI can now also generate that for you as well, it was not necessary to create the AI to meet your goal and requirement.
- arrosenberg 3y agoSo whats the issue? I can create exactly what I want instead of what is available.
- tumult 3y agoBy definition of having an AI generate something for you instead of making it yourself, you can’t create exactly what you want. You can probably get it in the ballpark, though. But that’s exactly the same scenario we have today with musicians. The same way we traded away the profession of painters for photography, it seems like we might be trading away muscicians for generative music AI. Except photography is super useful for lots of things and truly benefitted humankind, and generative music AI… only replaces musicians? I have no idea why we would make this trade, as a society.
- arrosenberg 3y ago> The same way we traded away the profession of painters for photography People still paint? Even portrait, although I'll acknowledge it's far less popular than it was in the 1700s. A town full of reproduction artists in China seems a bigger threat to capitalistic western artists than an AI that will mostly provide generic output.
- jimbokun 3y agoHow will we still have artists skilled enough to compose Lord of the Rings soundtrack, if they never get to work on lesser pieces to develop?
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- seydor 3y agoof course there is a lot of good. Not just elevator music, this could be used to make music samples for DJs . And every tech advance has side effects , usually in unforeseen ways
- ChatGTP 3y agoGreed and nerd revenge.
- LegitShady 3y ago"we need to publish/produce to survive, and look at all this data music represents"
- meltedcapacitor 3y agoSounds like the "is DJing an art form" debate. :o) Unlike classic "hiring a musician", here it's practical to "hire" the (robot) musician 10000 times with a feedback loop between the model and the prompt writer, iterating and picking the best output(s)... which looks like a similar process to other exercises considered art forms.
- TrackerFF 3y agoMuzak generation. This kind of automated "filler" music has been around for decades, and is usually used for exactly that - filler. It's pretty much the stock photos of music. And that could be a good thing - suddenly content-creators don't have to spend money or energy on purchasing that kind of stuff. If you've ever seen youtube automation videos - typically those "TOP N" list vids, they always contain some kind of muzak-style soundtracks.
- anon291 3y ago> I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer. Man wants to dominate nature and always has. I don't think this is particularly difficult motivation to understand, as it seems omnipresent.
- zirgs 3y agoA game developer or a movie director can now generate music for their games and movies and don't have to bother with hiring a composer.