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A flood of garbage film/music has always existed, we just don't remember it because its uninteresting. However, I think modern rec algorithms (like the Netflix

A flood of garbage film/music has always existed, we just don't remember it because its uninteresting. However, I think modern rec algorithms (like the Netflix home page) are recommending more mediocre stuff than the old system, and the streaming boom did produce an abnormal glut of junk. Anyway I think AI is going to spawn a music remixing/game modding/tv extending renaissance. They perform much better when pointing them at a good source (as you can see with the melody conditioning samples, and other stuff like sd img2img and finetuned llms).

amanaplanacanal 3y ago
It was a smaller flood though, when it required lots of money to record an album / make a movie. Gatekeepers kept most of it out. Now anybody can do it, so there is both a lot more chaff to sort through, and an outpouring of creativity.
the_only_law 3y ago
I won’t speak to music, as I listen to a lot of stuff, enough to know there is good stuff out there being made. But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? It seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and just milking people off boring franchises and cheap nostalgia through crappy remakes and sequels. My eyes rolled to the back of my head when I saw an ad for a show called “how I met your father” on Hulu.
- berberous 3y ago
  For TV, hard to go wrong with an HBO series. Most recently, Succession was excellent.
- Cyph0n 3y ago
  Those “boring franchises” are what bankroll the passion projects, artsy festival bound movies, and experimental content. As far as content goes, there has been a ton of excellent stuff just this year across movies, TV, and anime. One “organic” way to start is to look for recent recommendation threads on Reddit for a movie or show you really like.
  - wholinator2 3y ago
    See, I've seen this stated many places but never explained. How exactly does the money made by derivative bullshit go into valuable, passionate, art projects and not either directly into pockets or into the next billion dollar derivative bullshit thing? Generally, the bullshit costs way more to produce and market and advertise. And at least on paper, a significant amount of the money made is only recuperating costs for the 3 hours of incredibly CGI it took to make a 3rd 'ant man' or a 4th 'jurassic park'. The majority of actual indie art films cost ridiculously less than that because they're filming a movie, not a commercial. Anyways, my opinions aside, are there any articles with cited money trails that prove that billion dollar blockbusters actually fund valuable art and not just executives yahts?
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  Use 3rd party discovery services. Reelgood is a good one, sort by IMDB score (which is somehow still kinda working as a metric) or the reelgood score which is a popularity among enthusiasts kinda ranking. You will find tvs gems streaming services criminally and inexplicably never recommend. But "old school" recommendations from TV /movie buffs (like the tvtropes community or various forums) are still a good source.
- johaugum 3y ago
  > But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? There’s a trove of incredible foreign movies and TV shows out there. Scandinavian and Asian (Korean in particular) content has a really good hit to miss ratio for me. For examples, check out international film festival nominations and winners.
- fancy_pantser 3y ago
  Having a good time woth Trakt for discovery and rating. It has a very active app/plugin/webhook ecosystem and I've gotten some great recommendations from it by scrobbling via Plex and following a few people with similar preferences on there.
- polytely 3y ago
  just follow writers and creators you like, note which actors have good taste, follow them from project to project.
- jimbokun 3y ago
  I don't know what you like, but "Prestige TV" seems to be where writers, directors, and actors wanting to do something other than another retread from some studio's IP backlog, end up.
- ssnistfajen 3y ago
  Indie films, international films, etc. Mainstream entertainment has always converged to mediocrity.

amanaplanacanal 3y ago

It was a smaller flood though, when it required lots of money to record an album / make a movie. Gatekeepers kept most of it out. Now anybody can do it, so there is both a lot more chaff to sort through, and an outpouring of creativity.

the_only_law 3y ago

I won’t speak to music, as I listen to a lot of stuff, enough to know there is good stuff out there being made. But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? It seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and just milking people off boring franchises and cheap nostalgia through crappy remakes and sequels. My eyes rolled to the back of my head when I saw an ad for a show called “how I met your father” on Hulu.

berberous 3y ago
For TV, hard to go wrong with an HBO series. Most recently, Succession was excellent.
Cyph0n 3y ago
Those “boring franchises” are what bankroll the passion projects, artsy festival bound movies, and experimental content. As far as content goes, there has been a ton of excellent stuff just this year across movies, TV, and anime. One “organic” way to start is to look for recent recommendation threads on Reddit for a movie or show you really like.
- wholinator2 3y ago
  See, I've seen this stated many places but never explained. How exactly does the money made by derivative bullshit go into valuable, passionate, art projects and not either directly into pockets or into the next billion dollar derivative bullshit thing? Generally, the bullshit costs way more to produce and market and advertise. And at least on paper, a significant amount of the money made is only recuperating costs for the 3 hours of incredibly CGI it took to make a 3rd 'ant man' or a 4th 'jurassic park'. The majority of actual indie art films cost ridiculously less than that because they're filming a movie, not a commercial. Anyways, my opinions aside, are there any articles with cited money trails that prove that billion dollar blockbusters actually fund valuable art and not just executives yahts?
brucethemoose2 3y ago
Use 3rd party discovery services. Reelgood is a good one, sort by IMDB score (which is somehow still kinda working as a metric) or the reelgood score which is a popularity among enthusiasts kinda ranking. You will find tvs gems streaming services criminally and inexplicably never recommend. But "old school" recommendations from TV /movie buffs (like the tvtropes community or various forums) are still a good source.
johaugum 3y ago
> But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? There’s a trove of incredible foreign movies and TV shows out there. Scandinavian and Asian (Korean in particular) content has a really good hit to miss ratio for me. For examples, check out international film festival nominations and winners.
fancy_pantser 3y ago
Having a good time woth Trakt for discovery and rating. It has a very active app/plugin/webhook ecosystem and I've gotten some great recommendations from it by scrobbling via Plex and following a few people with similar preferences on there.
polytely 3y ago
just follow writers and creators you like, note which actors have good taste, follow them from project to project.
jimbokun 3y ago
I don't know what you like, but "Prestige TV" seems to be where writers, directors, and actors wanting to do something other than another retread from some studio's IP backlog, end up.
ssnistfajen 3y ago
Indie films, international films, etc. Mainstream entertainment has always converged to mediocrity.