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All kinds of things wrong? It’s the base for half the Linux distros. What could you possibly mean?

marpstar 3y ago
I think they were referring to the fact that everything has something "wrong" with it, but that those things don't invalidate the value of the greater whole.
- pietro72ohboy 3y ago
  Seems to be an extremely charitable interpretation of the parent comment. I also read it as -- "Despite the plethora of issues with Debian, it manages to surprise". Like the second-level commenter, I'm also curious to hear more about these "issues".
  - 28304283409234 3y ago
    You poor person, reading malice where none was intended. marpstar was correct. I am a Debian fanboi since Slink. Since it was drilled into me by rvdm, ssmeenk, miquels, jdassen and dth. And have seen Debian survive and thrive a lot of critisism. "Too slow release cycle, not Free(Dom) enough, Too free, systemd, too much politics, too many architectures, etc....etc....etc.." Yes, any large community will be flawed and deliver flawed solutions. And I for one celebrate those flaws and features, and appreciate the sheer magnitude and accomplishment of this enormous, complex, great project.
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still_grokking 3y ago
Half the Linux distris? I've once counted on Distrowatch. When you go by number of distris there it's more like 80% are Debian based. If you go also by how much those distris are used it's even like 9x% of the stuff running out there is Debian based. There are almost no independent distris. You have Arch, you have SUSE, you have RedHat and a few clones, you have Gentoo. But more or less everything else is Debian based.
- mongol 3y ago
  Do I get it right that you mean > 90 percent of distro use is Debian-based? Because that can hardly be the case
  - tuukkah 3y ago
    Ubuntu and its derivatives are included.
    - guerrilla 3y ago
      Is Ubuntu still Debian based? What's the criterion for that anyway? Just using debs?
      - eikenberry 3y ago
        Yes, Ubuntu is still Debian based with just a little added on top.
      - tuukkah 3y ago
        I wouldn't call Ubuntu a flavor of Debian as they have so big differences, but ultimately it's still mostly Debian. You can see a numerical comparison of packages here: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/mdt/all.html http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/mdt/all.html
      - chungy 3y ago
        Ubuntu releases are, effectively, snapshots of Debian sid every 6 months. That's a pretty strong basis.

I think they were referring to the fact that everything has something "wrong" with it, but that those things don't invalidate the value of the greater whole.

pietro72ohboy 3y ago
Seems to be an extremely charitable interpretation of the parent comment. I also read it as -- "Despite the plethora of issues with Debian, it manages to surprise". Like the second-level commenter, I'm also curious to hear more about these "issues".
- 28304283409234 3y ago
  You poor person, reading malice where none was intended. marpstar was correct. I am a Debian fanboi since Slink. Since it was drilled into me by rvdm, ssmeenk, miquels, jdassen and dth. And have seen Debian survive and thrive a lot of critisism. "Too slow release cycle, not Free(Dom) enough, Too free, systemd, too much politics, too many architectures, etc....etc....etc.." Yes, any large community will be flawed and deliver flawed solutions. And I for one celebrate those flaws and features, and appreciate the sheer magnitude and accomplishment of this enormous, complex, great project.
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still_grokking 3y ago

Half the Linux distris? I've once counted on Distrowatch. When you go by number of distris there it's more like 80% are Debian based. If you go also by how much those distris are used it's even like 9x% of the stuff running out there is Debian based. There are almost no independent distris. You have Arch, you have SUSE, you have RedHat and a few clones, you have Gentoo. But more or less everything else is Debian based.

mongol 3y ago
Do I get it right that you mean > 90 percent of distro use is Debian-based? Because that can hardly be the case
- tuukkah 3y ago
  Ubuntu and its derivatives are included.
  - guerrilla 3y ago
    Is Ubuntu still Debian based? What's the criterion for that anyway? Just using debs?
    - eikenberry 3y ago
      Yes, Ubuntu is still Debian based with just a little added on top.
    - tuukkah 3y ago
      I wouldn't call Ubuntu a flavor of Debian as they have so big differences, but ultimately it's still mostly Debian. You can see a numerical comparison of packages here: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/mdt/all.html http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/mdt/all.html
    - chungy 3y ago
      Ubuntu releases are, effectively, snapshots of Debian sid every 6 months. That's a pretty strong basis.