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Not quite true: there is no public opposition to anything in Russia let's say, and they build their nuclear plants for about that long. Belarusian NPP construct

Not quite true: there is no public opposition to anything in Russia let's say, and they build their nuclear plants for about that long. Belarusian NPP construction started in March 2011 and first reactor went online in November 2020, 9.5 years. Chernobyl NPP was probably built faster than it should've been given many issues they introduced in the process, and it took 7.5 years from commencement to first reactor going online, May 1970 to December 1977. 10 years down the road, there simply won't be a place for non-renewable power left on the market, apart from natural gas peaker plants for grid balancing. Too late to start any new ones.

htag 3y ago
As the price of photovoltaic continues strongly downward, all other energy sources will seem increasingly expensive. So much energy will be consumed during the day, and more and more nighttime energy use will be constrained. The traditional power sources like Coal, Nuclear, and Oil will be slowly decommissioned as they age, leading towards a reduction of base generation. Gas peakers will be used as needed when the base generation plus renewables don't meet demand. Over time, batteries will become a larger and highly predictable system to handle peak demands. The price of battery storage is plummeting too. Although there are open questions on if the improvements in battery tech will continue, if it does continue then in 30 to 40 years the cheapest way to sell peak power will be to buy it during photovoltaic abundance, store it in a battery, and then release it. At this point we will be able to stop using gas peakers.
u8080 3y ago
Not true, for example Nizniy Novgorod NPP was cancelled despite being almost finished because of local radiophobic public movements. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%90%D0%A1%D0%A2 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA...
- anovikov 3y ago
  Yes that was in the democratic era...

htag 3y ago

As the price of photovoltaic continues strongly downward, all other energy sources will seem increasingly expensive. So much energy will be consumed during the day, and more and more nighttime energy use will be constrained. The traditional power sources like Coal, Nuclear, and Oil will be slowly decommissioned as they age, leading towards a reduction of base generation. Gas peakers will be used as needed when the base generation plus renewables don't meet demand. Over time, batteries will become a larger and highly predictable system to handle peak demands. The price of battery storage is plummeting too. Although there are open questions on if the improvements in battery tech will continue, if it does continue then in 30 to 40 years the cheapest way to sell peak power will be to buy it during photovoltaic abundance, store it in a battery, and then release it. At this point we will be able to stop using gas peakers.

u8080 3y ago

Not true, for example Nizniy Novgorod NPP was cancelled despite being almost finished because of local radiophobic public movements. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%90%D0%A1%D0%A2 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C%D0%BA...

anovikov 3y ago
Yes that was in the democratic era...