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Wait until Google implements something and shoves it down everyones throat in Chrome and then has all the Google fanboys claiming that its the best thing since

Wait until Google implements something and shoves it down everyones throat in Chrome and then has all the Google fanboys claiming that its the best thing since sliced bread and thus should get implemented by every other browser just because Google did it? That's how we ended up in the situation where Google shipped U2F, sites implemented their implementation and then when the standard WebAuthN was built it was not compatible so sites had to be updated to be standards compliant, and it took a while to do so. Or when Google added WebP without clear consensus. Or when they added FLoC or Topics API, or whatever else they have cooked up. Or things like WebUSB, WebMIDI and others? There's a glut of Chrome only sites out there, and it continues to grow as web developers test just on Chrome but not the other browser engines. It's turning into the next IE 6, I remember the time there were a lot of "Made for IE 6" logos and graphics on sites and they did not render well or at all in Netscape.

Taywee 3y ago
"dearth" means "lack" or "scarcity". I think it's the opposite of what you meant.
- ArchOversight 3y ago
  You are correct. Edited and replaced the word with glut. Thank you!
bee_rider 3y ago
As much as the locking down of iOS is annoying for everybody technical, we should be somewhat thankful that Apple has ensured a large population of mobile safari users.
- MBCook 3y ago
  Except in every thread about iOS or Safari are a ton of people crying for real Chrome on iOS because Safari is the new IE 6 holding the web back by not implementing the new WebDogCam4 “standard” Google pushed out 2 days ago.
  - freedomben 3y ago
    Honest question: do you think Apple is holding back the web?
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      Apple is holding ChromeOS back, which is what the Web will turn into if Google has free reign.
    - michaelt 3y ago
      The mention of “the new WebDogCam4 “standard” Google pushed out 2 days ago.” didn’t register as sarcasm with you, huh?
    - AmenBreak 3y ago
      Chrome is not "the web."
      - MBCook 3y ago
        To a ton of people (including developers), it is. Therefore anything that’s not Chrome or 100% compatible is “breaking the web”. No one is forcing a Chrome hegemony on us. Developers are choosing it.
        AmenBreak 3y ago
        Those developers will always, ALWAYS cater it iOS - where the money is.
        dwaite 3y ago
        ... and they'll do this by having their mobile team create an app, and making their website refuse to work on iOS by user-agent string.
        bee_rider 3y ago
        This is something that lots of people complain about but somehow I never experience. Not to doubt it—I’ve seen the complaint enough that I believe it—mostly I’m just confused as to how I’ve managed to dodge the problem. Firefox and mobile Safari, so I guess I should experience it…
- brookst 3y ago
  I'm very technical and not remotely annoyed by iOS being locked down. It would be like being annoyed the the SUV I bought isn't a sports car.
  - fennecfoxy 3y ago
    That's a pretty poor comparison, a lot of the Android vs iOS debate is more akin to buying a sports car and then finding out it won't go more than 50km/h outside of your own country. Back before flagship prices inflated (due to Apple) people buying a $1k iPhone couldn't do something as simple as use a different keyboard. And of course the product is advertised as advanced tech, yadda yadda. There's been a spate of things, custom keyboards, wallpapers, multi-tasking, installing apps from a store rather than built-in, home/lock screen widgets, default apps for certain files, PiP, app drawer, and so much more. I don't consider companies being inspired by/adding features from the other, it's not theft when it's a good idea (unless it's Apple's, then you get sued). But for them to market the way they do while taking so long to add basic things like these, it's just ugh. Keeping in mind, of course, there are plenty of people who won't turn off the TV because there's nothing on that they want to watch; they'll just pick the channel that is the least bad.
derrickshields 3y ago
"Made for IE 6" -- TRIGGER! I remember back in my design days all the IE specific overrides for proper rendering.
tzs 3y ago
That's how nearly everything that is now a web standard came about. The web standards groups generally don't want to even consider something for standardization until someone has actually implemented it and deployed it.
Aerbil313 3y ago
I for one see the turning of Web into a sandboxed OS as an improvement, even if it’s lead by Google.

Taywee 3y ago

"dearth" means "lack" or "scarcity". I think it's the opposite of what you meant.

ArchOversight 3y ago
You are correct. Edited and replaced the word with glut. Thank you!

bee_rider 3y ago

As much as the locking down of iOS is annoying for everybody technical, we should be somewhat thankful that Apple has ensured a large population of mobile safari users.

MBCook 3y ago
Except in every thread about iOS or Safari are a ton of people crying for real Chrome on iOS because Safari is the new IE 6 holding the web back by not implementing the new WebDogCam4 “standard” Google pushed out 2 days ago.
- freedomben 3y ago
  Honest question: do you think Apple is holding back the web?
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Apple is holding ChromeOS back, which is what the Web will turn into if Google has free reign.
  - michaelt 3y ago
    The mention of “the new WebDogCam4 “standard” Google pushed out 2 days ago.” didn’t register as sarcasm with you, huh?
  - AmenBreak 3y ago
    Chrome is not "the web."
    - MBCook 3y ago
      To a ton of people (including developers), it is. Therefore anything that’s not Chrome or 100% compatible is “breaking the web”. No one is forcing a Chrome hegemony on us. Developers are choosing it.
      - AmenBreak 3y ago
        Those developers will always, ALWAYS cater it iOS - where the money is.
        dwaite 3y ago
        ... and they'll do this by having their mobile team create an app, and making their website refuse to work on iOS by user-agent string.
      - bee_rider 3y ago
        This is something that lots of people complain about but somehow I never experience. Not to doubt it—I’ve seen the complaint enough that I believe it—mostly I’m just confused as to how I’ve managed to dodge the problem. Firefox and mobile Safari, so I guess I should experience it…
brookst 3y ago
I'm very technical and not remotely annoyed by iOS being locked down. It would be like being annoyed the the SUV I bought isn't a sports car.
- fennecfoxy 3y ago
  That's a pretty poor comparison, a lot of the Android vs iOS debate is more akin to buying a sports car and then finding out it won't go more than 50km/h outside of your own country. Back before flagship prices inflated (due to Apple) people buying a $1k iPhone couldn't do something as simple as use a different keyboard. And of course the product is advertised as advanced tech, yadda yadda. There's been a spate of things, custom keyboards, wallpapers, multi-tasking, installing apps from a store rather than built-in, home/lock screen widgets, default apps for certain files, PiP, app drawer, and so much more. I don't consider companies being inspired by/adding features from the other, it's not theft when it's a good idea (unless it's Apple's, then you get sued). But for them to market the way they do while taking so long to add basic things like these, it's just ugh. Keeping in mind, of course, there are plenty of people who won't turn off the TV because there's nothing on that they want to watch; they'll just pick the channel that is the least bad.

derrickshields 3y ago

"Made for IE 6" -- TRIGGER! I remember back in my design days all the IE specific overrides for proper rendering.

tzs 3y ago

That's how nearly everything that is now a web standard came about. The web standards groups generally don't want to even consider something for standardization until someone has actually implemented it and deployed it.

Aerbil313 3y ago

I for one see the turning of Web into a sandboxed OS as an improvement, even if it’s lead by Google.