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Tesla plans for 375,000 Cybertrucks per year
- PaywallBuster 3y agoLast photos I saw, looked like plastic legos with wheels....
- CharlesW 3y agoMaybe you saw this one? https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Wheels-Cybertruck-Radio-Controlled-Controller/dp/B08J4FQWCX https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Wheels-Cybertruck-Radio-Controlle...
- berkle4455 3y agoRivian and Lightning are both available and fully functional, is Tesla planning a redesign or sticking with the weekend-soapbox-derby aesthetic?
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- jackmott42 3y agoGiven that traditional aesthetics are already being provided to the market by Chevy and Ford, and typical EV aesthetic by Rivian, it should be more fun if Tesla continues to be really weird with their truck.
- patapong 3y agoAgreed! Most car aesthetics are so safe and uniform. A part of me is happy that we are finally getting tech that looks like the what people in the 80s thought the future would look like. Next, flying cars?
- rootusrootus 3y agoOTOH, it ages exactly like you'd expect for a futuristic 80s design. It looked out of style before the unveiling was complete.
- kemayo 3y agoI actually kind of like the look of it, though most people I've talked about it with disagree. It's polarizing. ...that said, I also have no need whatsoever for this vehicle, and will not be buying it. Now, if they ever manifested a subcompact and didn't have an asshat for a CEO...
- BaseballPhysics 3y ago> most people I've talked about it with disagree. It's polarizing. Doesn't a topic need two poles to be polarizing? ;)
- everdrive 3y agoA Rivian is something like 100k, which means it’s really not in the running here. You could briefly get a lightning for 40k, but that has quickly passed. I think the cheapest is now 50 or 60k. If Tesla can hit their original 40k target I’ll buy one even though I don’t like Tesla.
- coding123 3y agoUgh, I hate the way they look. Not looking forward to a bunch of bro owners looking to show off and drive like maniacs
- canadianfella 3y ago[dead]
- londons_explore 3y agoI wonder how high they can be lifted... I bet you see a bunch 6 feet in the air...
- youngtaff 3y agoYeh it’s fugly
- adventured 3y agoThere will be an initial flurry of Cybertruck sales. Musk will latch onto that with typical bravado and proclaim he told everyone so. Then sales will tank. It'll be a niche seller thereafter. A trinket. It was an exceptionally stupid approach to a truck by Tesla (which I noted when it was revealed). Ford will make a zillion dollars on electric trucks, they did the obvious thing and Musk couldn't get out of his own way in needing to create the unnecessary and unwanted just to do something different. See, look how innovative we are, at doing pointless things. It's the modern truck version of the DeLorean, at a time when Tesla very desperately needs diversification from Model 3 sales (one point of business death). The truck should have been a gigantic, hyper profitable segment, and they'll have wasted years going down the wrong path.
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- jackmott42 3y agoI find it fascinating you are patting yourself on the back have having forseen the failure: "(which I noted when it was revealed)" when the failure hasn't even happened yet!
- tasty_freeze 3y agoThat is a less charitable interpretation; a more charitable interpretation is "That was my initial impression and nothing in the years since since has changed it."
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- drstewart 3y agoYou forgot to mention it has no wireless, less space than a Nomad
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- jackmott42 3y agoThe regular Tesla cars, the internet used to be super super hyped about, while in the real world people I would talk to (in Austin Texas) were often pretty skeptical and unsure. With the cybertruck it seems to be the reverse, the internet hates it, but many people in my neighborhood at least (Suburbia Austin) have pre orders. I think success will come down to price and range. If it is affordable and can road trip with 4 mountain bikes, I'd be in.
- Dig1t 3y agoI am one of those Austinites you mention with a pre-order. It seems like an excellent car. I need a truck that can tow short distances, haul stuff from Home Depot, has seating for a family, and occasionally get me to Dallas or Houston. This checks every box, plus it looks awesome and is made in my city! I can't wait for it and I can't believe there are so many people who are negative about it.
- rootusrootus 3y ago> This checks every box So do the existing EV trucks, though?
- Dig1t 3y agoThe only other car that checks the utility boxes for me is the F150 lightning. But the Ford software is abysmal, and I think the car looks pretty ugly. Tesla is much better at software and, to me, the Cybertruck looks way cooler. Plus, it being made in Texas is a nice bonus.
- rootusrootus 3y agoI wouldn't necessarily count the Rivian out. It's not nearly as small as it looks in pictures, it can probably tow a utility trailer as well as anything else. The nice thing about the Ford, though, is that they're jumping on the NACS bandwagon, so they'll benefit from supercharger access pretty soon. Looks are subjective, I'll give you that. And maybe Tesla's software is better than Ford, but that's a low bar :). Tesla's software has lots of bugs too. I'd like a dumb EV truck that doesn't try to do anything special. I'll use CarPlay for infotainment instead.
- fabian2k 3y agoIs that still the same basic design that was initially shown with the rigid steel body? If so, how are they planning to solve the likely safety issues here, both for the people inside as well as people outside. Having nothing that crumples should mean that the full force of any crash is applied to the passengers. And the design looks like it's a nightmare for any pedestrian hit by it.
- brianwawok 3y agoIt’s not really a rigid body anymore, this got silently changed 18 months ago. It’s just slightly thicker than normal body panels.
- quantified 3y agoWhat truck is designed to be nice to a pedestrian that is hit by it?
- progbits 3y agoEvery road-legal truck in Europe? Nice being a relative term of course.
- samwillis 3y agoExactly, I'm fairly sure based on my rudimentary understanding of European regulations that the Cyber Truck as designed wouldn't pass. (Sharp corners = very bad for pedestrians) My assumption is that they aimed to have the automation/AI to the point that it avoided collisions and pedestrians, and aimed to sidestep the regulations. I don't think that has a chance in hell of happening though. Don't get me wrong, the child in my loves the design, it's awesome. However the adult in me knows it's stupid, ridiculously oversized and dangerous.
- saiya-jin 3y agoYeah that frontal bumper is a people cutter, probably even for city speeds. Sure as hell am I glad I won't ever see this on roads here in Europe.
- oatmeal1 3y agoOne thing I've never seen discussed by the media is whether the Cybertruck as demoed is even road-legal. For example, there are specific rules about how you can design your headlights, restrictions on wheels that extend beyond the fenders (fenders exist to prevent your car from shooting debris at the car behind you), etc. Something tells me the actual product will look quite different than what we've seen so far.
- beezlewax 3y agoTeslas makes ridiculous claims and we eat it up more like.
- ssharp 3y agoIt will be interesting to see the new price. It was something like $40,000 when it was first announced. Other EV trucks are nearly twice that. I can’t imagine Tesla being able to keep it that low. I know the design is polarizing but it gives the Tesla truck something unique to position it against what Ford has and what Chevy will soon have.
- eatbitseveryday 3y agoUSD 40k is cheaper than any available Toyota minivan (which run for USD 50k+ based on available models for sale at various places I watch).
- 0zemp3c 3y agorip on it all you want, these will sell out and you will see them everywhere
- berkes 3y ago> you will see them everywhere Dit Tesla actually get clearance to sell them in the EU, for example? The rules in EU wrt road safety are quite different. E.g. many of the SUVs common in the US are simply not on sale nor allowed in the EU (IIRC because their frame is too stiff and visibilty too hampered). Is this differeent for the Cybertuck?
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- ortusdux 3y agoI did not realize that they backtracked on the exoskeleton design. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-went-from-exoskeleton-marvel-to-unibody-honda-ridgeline-competitor-214263.html https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-went-fro... "In its Q1 2023 Update report, Tesla disclosed images of the Tesla Cybertruck pilot production line. They were enough for Cory Steuben, from Munro Live, to clarify that the Cybertruck does not have an exoskeleton. The engineer candidly shared in an interview that we are in front of a unibody structure. In other words, it "will be more like a Honda Ridgeline" or "a big old Model Y." Towing and transporting stuff in the bed will face massive challenges due to the way the truck will be built."
- slantedview 3y agoWhat's the significance of this for someone unfamiliar?
- penjelly 3y agoi believe the original design was a patented concept that promised to streamline production, sounds like they flipped back to a standard chasis design to me?
- ortusdux 3y agoIIRC, part of the goal was weight reduction, which is a significant consideration with EVs. If you can convert the cosmetic body panels into structural elements, you can reduce the overall bill of materials. They have since aggressively pursued large cast aluminum frame technology. This reportedly reduced the complexity of their car's frames from 100+ pcs down to 1 or 2. My guess is that they switched the trucks fully over to these Al frames as a way to homogenize their production lines. Purely conjecture, but they probably held off under the assumption that they could not produce the Al frames fast enough, but a sales slump freed up the production capability.
- penjelly 3y ago
- rootusrootus 3y ago375K is optimistic. It specifically avoids catering to traditional truck buyers, but it's damn near the size of a superduty. That's pretty big for a lifestyle truck. They'll sell some, for sure, but 375K?
- hedora 3y agoIt looks like the bed is now always covered by a piece of glass: https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck It's really frustrating watching all the EV companies (except, arguably, Ford) completely face plant on pickup trucks. The frames have been able to accommodate battery weight + volume since the early 90's, so very little innovation is needed here. There is a huge market for no-frills, low-range, high duty cycle vehicles for around town deliveries, etc. Pickup trucks are ridiculously expensive to operate with current gas prices, and many people that own them are environmentally conscious (but need to have a truck to move big stuff). So, there's basically no market risk for someone that produces a 1500 class truck that is a direct knock off of the trucks that have been being built for the last 30-40 years. Ford is by far the leader here. They invested a lot in moving to an aluminum frame, which lets them cut weight while increasing payload capacity. The main problem with their current offering is that they only offer it in a supercab with a short (but longer than the other EVs) bed. Also, it's an electron guzzler, so it's actually dependent on charging networks, which are still a disaster in the US. Anyway, here's a book describing the ICE -> Lead Acid pickup truck conversion process from 1993. The result kind of sucked because of the batteries, but my point is that the frame wasn't an issue at all, so very little innovation is required from the manufacturers: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Electric-Vehicle/dp/0830642315 https://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Own-Electric-Vehicle/dp/08...
- Dig1t 3y ago>It looks like the bed is now always covered by a piece of glass It's not glass, it's a roll-up cover. You can see Jay Leno demo it in this video from 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM Bed covers protect your stuff from thieves and also decrease drag (increase range). They are a smart idea, especially for electric trucks.
- jackmott42 3y agoFord is buying into the supercharger network, which is not a disaster.
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- guyzyl 3y agoMaybe they should start by selling one?