> But as a manager, I see that it's just so far less effective With respect, this is a skill issue. I also manage people and satisfaction among those I manage

> But as a manager, I see that it's just so far less effective With respect, this is a skill issue. I also manage people and satisfaction among those I manage is high (there is no change) and everyone else is just as happy with our output as they've always been. Of course there is plenty of complaining by other extroverted managers that they'd like to "see their colleagues more", but should that come at the cost of 2h per day for every single person? Absolutely no. If this is not clearly communicated they will abuse (IMO) their managerial powers by mandating folks do something to serve them. This is entirely the wrong attitude to take.