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> "[...] which would be reserved for cases of terrorism, delinquency and organized crime." Because of course it will

willcipriano 3y ago
One of these things is not like the others https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8
impyamin 3y ago
Lel Yeah with our current president you are considered a terrorist threat the moment you shitpost on twitter so no risk at all
- asne11 3y ago
  Is the gov kicking down doors for shit posters?
  - impyamin 3y ago
    No it was an exaggeration, but for real though, people are placed in GAV (temporary incarceration) only because they are present during street protest, with the pretext of them being dangerous political opposition so you can guess the possible abuse ps: there has been cases in France of people being sent to prison because of harassment on social networks though
  - jacknews 3y ago
    no but you'll be added to the database.
ZoF 3y ago
Ah, yes delinquency, there's that umbrella term we were looking for.
- unsupp0rted 3y ago
  Among the delinquent, it's only reserved for the subset who are problematic.
  - sgt 3y ago
    Let's start off with sensible defaults to define that subset. Can 100% work?
  - LanceH 3y ago
    Among law enforcement looking to use new surveillance powers it is anyone who could potentially do anything wrong.
xen2xen1 3y ago
Delinquency? As in schoolchildren? Or is that a translation thing?
- DirectorKrennic 3y ago
  Delinquency is probably translated from délinquance, which is generally understood to mean thuggery/small crimes.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    So to use these serious spy powers all they need is suspicion of pickpocketing? :O Or am I oversimplifying. Please say so.
    - stef25 3y ago
      It's probably referring to acts carried out by youngsters in the banlieus (low income areas of France's big cities). Stuff like ambushing police and fire brigades for lolz, partaking in protests they care nothing about to just loot and burn, low/mid scale drug dealing etc. Police has real problems dealing with these types cause there are so many of them together and they quickly scurry back in to their impenetrable tower blocks.
    - sebstefan 3y ago
      You're overcomplicating, délinquance is code for crime while young / crime while arab
- concinds 3y ago
  I checked a translation dictonary. Apparently it means crimes in general. I found a French government website that defines it as all crimes[0]. In their annual crime statistics they use it to refer to violence, thefts, robberies, property damage, scams, and drug use[1]. [0]: https://www.cipdr.gouv.fr/prevenir-la-delinquance/ https://www.cipdr.gouv.fr/prevenir-la-delinquance/ [1]: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/actualites/communiques/insecurite-et-delinquance-bilan-statistique-2021 https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/actualites/communiques/insecur...
lm28469 3y ago
They're already using anti terrorism era law against protests &co It's a perpetual "state of emergency" for a decade+ now

One of these things is not like the others https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8

impyamin 3y ago

Lel Yeah with our current president you are considered a terrorist threat the moment you shitpost on twitter so no risk at all

asne11 3y ago
Is the gov kicking down doors for shit posters?
- impyamin 3y ago
  No it was an exaggeration, but for real though, people are placed in GAV (temporary incarceration) only because they are present during street protest, with the pretext of them being dangerous political opposition so you can guess the possible abuse ps: there has been cases in France of people being sent to prison because of harassment on social networks though
- jacknews 3y ago
  no but you'll be added to the database.

ZoF 3y ago

Ah, yes delinquency, there's that umbrella term we were looking for.

unsupp0rted 3y ago
Among the delinquent, it's only reserved for the subset who are problematic.
- sgt 3y ago
  Let's start off with sensible defaults to define that subset. Can 100% work?
- LanceH 3y ago
  Among law enforcement looking to use new surveillance powers it is anyone who could potentially do anything wrong.

xen2xen1 3y ago

Delinquency? As in schoolchildren? Or is that a translation thing?

DirectorKrennic 3y ago
Delinquency is probably translated from délinquance, which is generally understood to mean thuggery/small crimes.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  So to use these serious spy powers all they need is suspicion of pickpocketing? :O Or am I oversimplifying. Please say so.
  - stef25 3y ago
    It's probably referring to acts carried out by youngsters in the banlieus (low income areas of France's big cities). Stuff like ambushing police and fire brigades for lolz, partaking in protests they care nothing about to just loot and burn, low/mid scale drug dealing etc. Police has real problems dealing with these types cause there are so many of them together and they quickly scurry back in to their impenetrable tower blocks.
  - sebstefan 3y ago
    You're overcomplicating, délinquance is code for crime while young / crime while arab
concinds 3y ago
I checked a translation dictonary. Apparently it means crimes in general. I found a French government website that defines it as all crimes[0]. In their annual crime statistics they use it to refer to violence, thefts, robberies, property damage, scams, and drug use[1]. [0]: https://www.cipdr.gouv.fr/prevenir-la-delinquance/ https://www.cipdr.gouv.fr/prevenir-la-delinquance/ [1]: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/actualites/communiques/insecurite-et-delinquance-bilan-statistique-2021 https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/actualites/communiques/insecur...

lm28469 3y ago

They're already using anti terrorism era law against protests &co It's a perpetual "state of emergency" for a decade+ now