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Humans regardless of gender favour what they perceive as “beautiful”. Cant change human nature.

User23 3y ago
Male physical attractiveness is qualitatively different from female, because female attractiveness is pretty much a set of fertility proxies[1] and little else, whereas male attractiveness is much more dependent on signaling provisioning ability and overall social status. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29178517/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29178517/
- biomcgary 3y ago
  Are you implying that for founders, female attractiveness is a poor signal for funding a startup, but male attractiveness is a strong signal?
  - Spivak 3y ago
    The answer to this lives at the bottom of a rabbit hole because there's too many confounding factors. Layer 1 for women's attractiveness is fertility signals but layer 2 is the means to acquire them -- eating well, managing weight (I don't mean just being skinny, gaining/losing weight a lot makes you lose fat in desirable areas which is why filler is so popular), exercise, skincare, makeup and the free time to get skilled at it, flattering clothes, plastic surgery, etc.. And all this stuff is a signal of overall social status.
- chasd00 3y ago
  The feminine form is a work of art the male body is for doing work.
  - fennecfoxy 3y ago
    As someone who's gay and obviously appreciates the male form, your statement is not true at all.
Zigurd 3y ago
Actually, you can factor most bias out of decisions by structuring the process carefully. There is no excuse not to do so.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  I am not sure why the downvotes. My comment doesn't imply that we cant or shouldnt have mechanisms to factor out bias or other human nature traits. I think it is precisely because it’s in our nature that we should actively seek a fair process. Nature wont change but the process can.
- sushid 3y ago
  How would you do that? Are you not going to interact with the entrepreneurs and see their faces?
  - Zigurd 3y ago
    Elite orchestral musicians are hired "blind." Moneyball is about hiring athletes that "don't look the part." There is a case to be made for a fund that would not let, for example, Adam Neumann snow them.
    - 1123581321 3y ago
      If the attractive founder will be selling, hiring employees or raising future capital, it’s probably not irrational to like them more. 15% doesn’t seem enough to paper over a truly bad business idea like Neumann’s latest.

Male physical attractiveness is qualitatively different from female, because female attractiveness is pretty much a set of fertility proxies[1] and little else, whereas male attractiveness is much more dependent on signaling provisioning ability and overall social status. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29178517/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29178517/

biomcgary 3y ago
Are you implying that for founders, female attractiveness is a poor signal for funding a startup, but male attractiveness is a strong signal?
- Spivak 3y ago
  The answer to this lives at the bottom of a rabbit hole because there's too many confounding factors. Layer 1 for women's attractiveness is fertility signals but layer 2 is the means to acquire them -- eating well, managing weight (I don't mean just being skinny, gaining/losing weight a lot makes you lose fat in desirable areas which is why filler is so popular), exercise, skincare, makeup and the free time to get skilled at it, flattering clothes, plastic surgery, etc.. And all this stuff is a signal of overall social status.
chasd00 3y ago
The feminine form is a work of art the male body is for doing work.
- fennecfoxy 3y ago
  As someone who's gay and obviously appreciates the male form, your statement is not true at all.

Zigurd 3y ago

Actually, you can factor most bias out of decisions by structuring the process carefully. There is no excuse not to do so.

gumballindie 3y ago
I am not sure why the downvotes. My comment doesn't imply that we cant or shouldnt have mechanisms to factor out bias or other human nature traits. I think it is precisely because it’s in our nature that we should actively seek a fair process. Nature wont change but the process can.
sushid 3y ago
How would you do that? Are you not going to interact with the entrepreneurs and see their faces?
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Elite orchestral musicians are hired "blind." Moneyball is about hiring athletes that "don't look the part." There is a case to be made for a fund that would not let, for example, Adam Neumann snow them.
  - 1123581321 3y ago
    If the attractive founder will be selling, hiring employees or raising future capital, it’s probably not irrational to like them more. 15% doesn’t seem enough to paper over a truly bad business idea like Neumann’s latest.