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This is the poor people are too stupid and helpless argument. It is not true. Your list of reasons is really just betraying how little you think poor people a

This is the poor people are too stupid and helpless argument. It is not true. Your list of reasons is really just betraying how little you think poor people are like yourself. You are portraying them as helpless animals. Also, lack of motivation as a reason they can't boil an egg, so they just go hungry instead? Do you even care about reality or just scoring internet points?

AndrewKemendo 3y ago
These are not dumb people, they are my friends and neighbors who are being systematically oppressed. Unless you're working a blue collar job in America you don't see this
- ltbarcly3 3y ago
  Right, I'm saying they aren't dumb. If what you are saying is true they would have to not only be dumb, but barely have human level intelligence. You believe that your friends and neighbors are completely incompetent at things that are trivially easy, and they have no hope of ever figuring it out on their own. You are actually claiming that there are tens of millions of adult humans, who have lived 20, 30 years, and are literally incapable of procuring one pot. You are saying they can't independently manage to acquire the cooking skills to boil rice. It's just absurd. Meanwhile those same people are statistically obese. Somehow despite living without electricity, money, pots, illiterate and 50 miles from the nearest grocery store they eat enough to be obese (can you explain how they get enough food to eat too much despite it being impossible for them to acquire groceries at all?) and yet it is unreasonable to think they might boil an egg.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    The evidence doesn't match your theory that it's trivially easy. Which will you discard?
  - wizzwizz4 3y ago
    > and they have no hope of ever figuring it out on their own. It's not a case of not understanding, or not having the skills, or it being “unreasonable to think they might” do anything. https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/ https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine... https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2022/04/12/its-not-about-the-pasta-kevin-jack-monroe/ https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2022/04/12/its-not-about-the... I get not understanding, but can you try not to be so obnoxious about it, please? It's clear you don't have these problems. If they seem to you to be absurd struggles to have, read some Albert Camus.
    - AndrewKemendo 3y ago
      I love both the spoons theory (and it's popping up everywhere) and Camus!
    - ltbarcly3 3y ago
      No, you are using a tiny subset of a group to make broad assertions about the entire group. That is not logically valid. I accept there are sick people. But not all people are sick. Most poor people do in fact make themselves inexpensive food at home. That you and others want to claim it is impossible for them to do so is bizarre.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        The thing you describe is not in those comments. Also please go answer the question over in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36232600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36232600 of what ingredients go in the sandwich.
        ltbarcly3 3y ago
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derefr 3y ago
> Also, lack of motivation as a reason they can't boil an egg, so they just go hungry instead? You haven't heard of depressed people? A lot of homeless people are depressed, which is why they don't work.

AndrewKemendo 3y ago

These are not dumb people, they are my friends and neighbors who are being systematically oppressed. Unless you're working a blue collar job in America you don't see this

ltbarcly3 3y ago
Right, I'm saying they aren't dumb. If what you are saying is true they would have to not only be dumb, but barely have human level intelligence. You believe that your friends and neighbors are completely incompetent at things that are trivially easy, and they have no hope of ever figuring it out on their own. You are actually claiming that there are tens of millions of adult humans, who have lived 20, 30 years, and are literally incapable of procuring one pot. You are saying they can't independently manage to acquire the cooking skills to boil rice. It's just absurd. Meanwhile those same people are statistically obese. Somehow despite living without electricity, money, pots, illiterate and 50 miles from the nearest grocery store they eat enough to be obese (can you explain how they get enough food to eat too much despite it being impossible for them to acquire groceries at all?) and yet it is unreasonable to think they might boil an egg.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  The evidence doesn't match your theory that it's trivially easy. Which will you discard?
- wizzwizz4 3y ago
  > and they have no hope of ever figuring it out on their own. It's not a case of not understanding, or not having the skills, or it being “unreasonable to think they might” do anything. https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/ https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine... https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2022/04/12/its-not-about-the-pasta-kevin-jack-monroe/ https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2022/04/12/its-not-about-the... I get not understanding, but can you try not to be so obnoxious about it, please? It's clear you don't have these problems. If they seem to you to be absurd struggles to have, read some Albert Camus.
  - AndrewKemendo 3y ago
    I love both the spoons theory (and it's popping up everywhere) and Camus!
  - ltbarcly3 3y ago
    No, you are using a tiny subset of a group to make broad assertions about the entire group. That is not logically valid. I accept there are sick people. But not all people are sick. Most poor people do in fact make themselves inexpensive food at home. That you and others want to claim it is impossible for them to do so is bizarre.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      The thing you describe is not in those comments. Also please go answer the question over in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36232600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36232600 of what ingredients go in the sandwich.
      - ltbarcly3 3y ago
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derefr 3y ago

> Also, lack of motivation as a reason they can't boil an egg, so they just go hungry instead? You haven't heard of depressed people? A lot of homeless people are depressed, which is why they don't work.