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Looks like jwz links also have a "noreferrer" tag added as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 New

by mrpopo 3y ago

Looks like jwz links also have a "noreferrer" tag added as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3132752 New silent HN policy to avoid showing its users that some people don't like them.

judge2020 3y ago
That page doesn't include noreferrer on the article link for me.
- pbasista 3y ago
  "rel" is an attribute of several HTML tags, including the anchor tag <a> [0]. It is not something that would be visible in the URL. The presence of this attribute instructs the client to not send the HTTP header "Referer" [1] when making a request to the target URL. [0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/rel#noreferrer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes... [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...
  - judge2020 3y ago
    I know, I'm saying that it's not in the `rel=` on that article link on the linked page. Just noopener, which is of course included on every link.
    - pbasista 3y ago
      > Just noopener, which is of course included on every link. I can see no `rel` attribute on other submitted links. Are you perhaps using some privacy-enhancing browser extension which adds the `rel=noopener` attribute to every link?
    - mrpopo 3y ago
      It is. When I open the source, I see this: <a href="http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victory-in-nymwars/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victo..." rel="noreferrer">Jwz: Google's pseudonym support "obvious bullshit"</a> Might be that the method is different on a specific browser, but most likely you are looking in the wrong place.
      - judge2020 3y ago
        <a href="http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victory-in-nymwars/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victo..." rel="noopener" target="_blank">Jwz: Google's pseudonym support "obvious bullshit"</a>
dtornabene 3y ago
This is extremely gross 'Dang, and I'm wondering how you can possibly defend doing this. Seriously, why are you going to these lengths to evade a soft-block on links to specific sites that very clearly and explicitly are communicating that they don't want HN's traffic?
- slikrick 3y ago
  the moderation here literally doesn't care about the authors and developers who provide the links to the articles. routinely they let them be harassed and derided on HN and do not care to focus on their attempts to stay off and away from that. it's completely expected but still shameful.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    Yeeeeeah, your stretching with your definition of harassment.
    - jacooper 3y ago
      it*
    - dtornabene 3y ago
      adding a config to your webserver to evade a soft block is directly enabling continued harassment. Its not passive, not "I'm just getting out of the way here", not "I can't stop this, not my fault", you are literally editing your webservers config file for a site-specific change to allow your forum visitors to evade an explicit block, a block enacted because of harassment.
      - jacooper 3y ago
        I mean that's because you consider it harassment. But if you consider it simple criticisms, suddenly its the person not accepting them, not harassment. Celebrities deal with much worse, yet they don't consider "Taylor switft is ugly" harassment.
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by mrpopo 3y ago

judge2020 3y ago

That page doesn't include noreferrer on the article link for me.

pbasista 3y ago
"rel" is an attribute of several HTML tags, including the anchor tag <a> [0]. It is not something that would be visible in the URL. The presence of this attribute instructs the client to not send the HTTP header "Referer" [1] when making a request to the target URL. [0] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/rel#noreferrer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes... [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Referer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Re...
- judge2020 3y ago
  I know, I'm saying that it's not in the `rel=` on that article link on the linked page. Just noopener, which is of course included on every link.
  - pbasista 3y ago
    > Just noopener, which is of course included on every link. I can see no `rel` attribute on other submitted links. Are you perhaps using some privacy-enhancing browser extension which adds the `rel=noopener` attribute to every link?
  - mrpopo 3y ago
    It is. When I open the source, I see this: <a href="http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victory-in-nymwars/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victo..." rel="noreferrer">Jwz: Google's pseudonym support "obvious bullshit"</a> Might be that the method is different on a specific browser, but most likely you are looking in the wrong place.
    - judge2020 3y ago
      <a href="http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victory-in-nymwars/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/eff-declares-premature-victo..." rel="noopener" target="_blank">Jwz: Google's pseudonym support "obvious bullshit"</a>

dtornabene 3y ago

This is extremely gross 'Dang, and I'm wondering how you can possibly defend doing this. Seriously, why are you going to these lengths to evade a soft-block on links to specific sites that very clearly and explicitly are communicating that they don't want HN's traffic?

slikrick 3y ago
the moderation here literally doesn't care about the authors and developers who provide the links to the articles. routinely they let them be harassed and derided on HN and do not care to focus on their attempts to stay off and away from that. it's completely expected but still shameful.
- jacooper 3y ago
  Yeeeeeah, your stretching with your definition of harassment.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    it*
  - dtornabene 3y ago
    adding a config to your webserver to evade a soft block is directly enabling continued harassment. Its not passive, not "I'm just getting out of the way here", not "I can't stop this, not my fault", you are literally editing your webservers config file for a site-specific change to allow your forum visitors to evade an explicit block, a block enacted because of harassment.
    - jacooper 3y ago
      I mean that's because you consider it harassment. But if you consider it simple criticisms, suddenly its the person not accepting them, not harassment. Celebrities deal with much worse, yet they don't consider "Taylor switft is ugly" harassment.
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