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They're stealing Ukrainian children, but there have also been plenty of reports of adults going to "filter camps" where apparently they're selected to be turned
by mcv 3y ago
They're stealing Ukrainian children, but there have also been plenty of reports of adults going to "filter camps" where apparently they're selected to be turned into Russians and relocated to live somewhere deep in Russia.
Stalin did the same, by the way: he loved to displace populations, especially of conquered or rebellious areas, and replace them with Russians. Crimean Tatars, for example, were moved to Siberia so he could Russify Crimea.
- scotty79 3y agoThe tragic thing was that Putin, instead of attacking Ukraine could have just opened his country for any Ukrainian citizen that feels Russian enough to want to relocate. He could probably get more people, if that's the goal, than with all this bloodshed and pointless destruction.
- mcv 3y agoI'm not sure that many ethnic Russians who tasted life in other countries, really want to live in Russia. It's not a healthy country. Everything I read about life there sounds incredibly depressing.
- scotty79 3y agoThe standard of life in eastern Ukraine wasn't that far off the one in Russia. There were many pro-Russian people there (probably way less now) and given that western Ukraine chose their man and party to run the whole country I can imagine plenty would migrate to Russia given the right push with open laws and some advertisement/propaganda.
- chrysler 3y agoDespite all the imperialism, Russians keep their wallets close. Western-aligned government (with expected rise in living standard) would've been an argument to stay in Ukraine, not to leave for Russia. In grander scheme, I believe that to be among the among main reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine. Free, prosperous Ukraine would've become an alternative power center in the Russian-speaking world. Imagine if Ukraine had followed Poland post-1991 and had the same median wage nowadays, double the median wage in Russia, with free access to Western markets. That would simply drain Russia from talent, and undermine Putin's legitimacy and the power of all who surround him. What would've been the reason to live or start a business in Russia if you could move to a country with very similar culture, do the same job, and earn multiples of what your potential in Russia would be capped to? All while enjoying better security in all aspects: economomic safety, personal safety from harm, rule of law, etc.
- mcv 3y agoHasn't Russia been handing out Russian passports in the occupied areas? I think that means they now have the option of living in Russia if that's what they prefer. A strongly support that, as long as it really is their own choice.
- usrusr 3y agoForcibly move people to the other end of the inland colonies. There they won't fraternize with the remaining locals, chances are they they will identify more with the colonizers than with the indigenous. Imperialism 101.
- orwin 3y agoMoved to khazakstan also. My mother hosted a Kazakh refugee family for a year. They were from a cossack family (the father) and from a Tatar family (the mother). That day I learn that cossacks were more of a nomad ethnical group from Ukrainian plains than a military unit in Civ :)