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If you have a product that's 5x as good, but 2x as expensive, literally everyone will buy it. The iPhone is the perfect case study.

by dvt 3y ago

ojbyrne 3y ago
If you’re comparing the Quest 2 to the Vision Pro, it seems more like 2x as good for 5x the price.
- MBCook 3y ago
  Based on the hands-on impressions I’ve read it sounds significantly more than twice as good. Five times the price, yeah. Today. This really feels like a product aimed at developers right now not the mass market yet. Which fits. The iPhone took a few years to really take off. The Apple Watch took a few years to really takeoff.
  - ukuina 3y ago
    Has Apple ever released a Developer Edition product before?
    - esskay 3y ago
      They've had developer units but not a publicly released one as far as I know. When Apple TV was being developed they were handing them out to devs for free like they had millions they were trying to get rid of. I was a lowly single app creator and they happily sent me one. For the Intel to M1 migration they did something similar but required them to be returned this time, and limited which devs they sent them out to.
    - MBCook 3y ago
      Yes, sort of. The first Intel Mac and the first ARM Mac were DTKs: Developer Transition Kits. You’d buy them from Apple at a reduced price, could use them to get your software running, and then had to give them back when the real hardware was released. There was nothing similar for the watch, iPad, or iPhone though.
    - junofan 3y ago
      Yeah the Intel Macs. I think you had to return them?
- MikusR 3y ago
  11 times the price
o1y32 3y ago
...if you are in the US. Outside US iPhones are nowhere nearly as popular. In many markets Android phones have about 90% of the market share
- MBCook 3y ago
  I believe they were referring to the original iPhone compared to the other “smartphones“ of the day. Not todays market, which has evolved.
- sho 3y ago
  > Outside US iPhones are nowhere nearly as popular. In many markets Android phones have about 90% of the market share In my opinion, with the possible exception of South Korea, that is purely a matter of apple's global pricing vs local purchasing power and a huge number of those android users would have an iPhone if they could afford it.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    > a huge number of those android users would have an iPhone if they could afford it. I don't think that's true. Samsung flagship phones cost the same as iphones (at least in the UK) and they sell very well here.

If you have a product that's 5x as good, but 2x as expensive, literally everyone will buy it. The iPhone is the perfect case study.

by dvt 3y ago

If you have a product that's 5x as good, but 2x as expensive, literally everyone will buy it. The iPhone is the perfect case study.

ojbyrne 3y ago

If you’re comparing the Quest 2 to the Vision Pro, it seems more like 2x as good for 5x the price.

MBCook 3y ago
Based on the hands-on impressions I’ve read it sounds significantly more than twice as good. Five times the price, yeah. Today. This really feels like a product aimed at developers right now not the mass market yet. Which fits. The iPhone took a few years to really take off. The Apple Watch took a few years to really takeoff.
- ukuina 3y ago
  Has Apple ever released a Developer Edition product before?
  - esskay 3y ago
    They've had developer units but not a publicly released one as far as I know. When Apple TV was being developed they were handing them out to devs for free like they had millions they were trying to get rid of. I was a lowly single app creator and they happily sent me one. For the Intel to M1 migration they did something similar but required them to be returned this time, and limited which devs they sent them out to.
  - MBCook 3y ago
    Yes, sort of. The first Intel Mac and the first ARM Mac were DTKs: Developer Transition Kits. You’d buy them from Apple at a reduced price, could use them to get your software running, and then had to give them back when the real hardware was released. There was nothing similar for the watch, iPad, or iPhone though.
  - junofan 3y ago
    Yeah the Intel Macs. I think you had to return them?
MikusR 3y ago
11 times the price

o1y32 3y ago

...if you are in the US. Outside US iPhones are nowhere nearly as popular. In many markets Android phones have about 90% of the market share

MBCook 3y ago
I believe they were referring to the original iPhone compared to the other “smartphones“ of the day. Not todays market, which has evolved.
sho 3y ago
> Outside US iPhones are nowhere nearly as popular. In many markets Android phones have about 90% of the market share In my opinion, with the possible exception of South Korea, that is purely a matter of apple's global pricing vs local purchasing power and a huge number of those android users would have an iPhone if they could afford it.
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  > a huge number of those android users would have an iPhone if they could afford it. I don't think that's true. Samsung flagship phones cost the same as iphones (at least in the UK) and they sell very well here.