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Crypto people constantly point to this video as some kind of evidence that the SEC is clueless. Maybe it just doesn't make sense for them to give clear answers

Crypto people constantly point to this video as some kind of evidence that the SEC is clueless. Maybe it just doesn't make sense for them to give clear answers in that kind of hearings,or answers related to specific crypto token. Just normal for government officials to cover their own asses primarily and giving specific guidance related to a specific issue at a hearing doesn't just serve them well.

whimsicalism 3y ago
I don't own any crypto [outside of very small curiosity amounts when I was playing with it to figure out how it works years ago] nor do I consider myself a 'crypto person' (only, perhaps, compared to the backdrop of extreme HN negativity around the topic). I just think that people saying 'regulations are perfectly clear' on this issue have not spent that much time dealing with regulators in emerging technology. > Just normal for government officials to cover their own asses primarily I agree - I just disagree with people suggesting that the same logic doesn't apply to regulators and their actions. They want to keep it unclear precisely so they have the ability to maneuver in the future and regulate if they want. That is the exact opposite of the 'super clear' regulations & guidance that GP was suggesting currently exists.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > people saying 'regulations are perfectly clear' on this issue have not spent that much time dealing with regulators in emerging technology I work in a regulated industry. I have my criticisms of Gensler. And I’ve (separately) profited off crypto. The regulations for non-Bitcoin exchanges were clear from the start. Nobody liked that clarity. And the regulators spent a few years navel gazing. But the legal advice I got at the start has remained consistent: the operators are putting themselves in jeopardy.
  - unyttigfjelltol 3y ago
    One way to look at it is a generation of boiler room operators moved their pump'n-dump schemes from central securities clearinghouse to crypto ledgers, because they realized what a loophole the Bitcoin exception was. And they brought in enough politicians and celebrities to slow walk promises of updated regulations, and regulators cautiously warned and waited, and here we are, with some bowtied man criticizing the SEC for doing its job precisely in the manner politicians demanded.
foodjinn 3y ago
Not that they are clueless, that they are corrupt.

whimsicalism 3y ago

I don't own any crypto [outside of very small curiosity amounts when I was playing with it to figure out how it works years ago] nor do I consider myself a 'crypto person' (only, perhaps, compared to the backdrop of extreme HN negativity around the topic). I just think that people saying 'regulations are perfectly clear' on this issue have not spent that much time dealing with regulators in emerging technology. > Just normal for government officials to cover their own asses primarily I agree - I just disagree with people suggesting that the same logic doesn't apply to regulators and their actions. They want to keep it unclear precisely so they have the ability to maneuver in the future and regulate if they want. That is the exact opposite of the 'super clear' regulations & guidance that GP was suggesting currently exists.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> people saying 'regulations are perfectly clear' on this issue have not spent that much time dealing with regulators in emerging technology I work in a regulated industry. I have my criticisms of Gensler. And I’ve (separately) profited off crypto. The regulations for non-Bitcoin exchanges were clear from the start. Nobody liked that clarity. And the regulators spent a few years navel gazing. But the legal advice I got at the start has remained consistent: the operators are putting themselves in jeopardy.
- unyttigfjelltol 3y ago
  One way to look at it is a generation of boiler room operators moved their pump'n-dump schemes from central securities clearinghouse to crypto ledgers, because they realized what a loophole the Bitcoin exception was. And they brought in enough politicians and celebrities to slow walk promises of updated regulations, and regulators cautiously warned and waited, and here we are, with some bowtied man criticizing the SEC for doing its job precisely in the manner politicians demanded.

foodjinn 3y ago

Not that they are clueless, that they are corrupt.